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			Can anyone get a hold of Vicki (current owner of the possible grumpy 68) and have her or them get on here and post more pictures?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Looks like Vicki's on da Grump F'book page... https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bill-...16316768418273 More great pics there including the cool Chuck Carman drawing below...just like the cars we used to draw on our books back in 'high' school. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete ![]() ![]() 
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			 Any more updates? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete ![]() 
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			I have tried to contact Vicki on FB, Drag Racer Reunion but no respond
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carleen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have tried to contact Vicki on FB, Drag Racer Reunion but no respond </div></div> 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	for a few years now, she/they have been telling anyone who will listen, that they have jenkins '68 camaro [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]  | 
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			10-12 years ago there was a Vicki and Dale from the same area and they said they had the first Z-28. They said it was a Penske/Grumpy Camaro. Somehow a collaboration of the two. It was red and that was Roger's favorite color so that legitimized it in their opinion. Left front brake drum (Yes, brake drum) had yellow "LF" painted on it like you would see from a junkyard. They said the LF stood for GM Engineer Lou Faux.   [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I think that pretty should much give you an idea of the "legitimacy" of this '68.  | 
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			 Just checkin' back for updates again. A couple good Jenkins links below... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete 1968 Interview & Action - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai3cnc-77ZE Pics of Grumpy Toys - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQQC_lnBB4 
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			In the '68 Nationals video, notice the in-car is Bill driving a '68 Camaro. (No vent window and '68 Camaro interior door trim panel) 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	That footage was shot at a different time? Did he have a '68 Camaro also at the '68 Nats?  | 
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			 A few pages back I mentioned it looked like the '68 car in the background of the '67 @ the '68 'Nats pic and if so, the '67 and '68 cars seen in the same shot? Here's the pic again below also one of the '68 car, note the Fram decals in the 1/4 window as the '68 and '69 cars had. Seems like lots of the '68 and '69 cars in one shot but what else can anyone come up w/ of the '67 and '68 pictured together? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] ~ Pete ![]() ![]() 
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			The picture is of the original 67 SS/C, Toy III. It morphed into the A/MP (late 68),as seen in the picture. It was taken at the 68 World Finals. This was its last race before being sold to the Kimballs. The 68 SS/C Camaro is the car you see behind it. The driving footage is the 68 SS/C at the World Finals. The footage of the car pulling to the line is Toy III at the Nats. The frame shot is Toy IV as a B/G at the 69 Nats. It went on to become a match race car and then a Pro Stock car in early 70. Both powered by the 430 ci. Can Am motor. Bill tracked the car down in Jersey in the early 2ks. But it was pretty beat up by then. The 68 Camaro was a Butternut Yellow, L89 when new. Then painted white. It appears to me that the 67 and 68 were both Buternut Yellow when new.(post 618795). I'm seeing the 68 in the Grumpy's Toy's book, at the Worlds as a fresh SS/C  being Butternut Yellow(page 79). Bills wearing a white shirt and the white 68 Nova fender is in the shoot.If someone with the book could confirm, I'd feel better. L78racers picture(post 618907) is Toy IV as a washed up P/Stock probably with running gear removed waiting for a new owner.(Bills name also removed) It was taken a Bills shop.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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