1969 427 camaro copo?????

Kinda of funny that someone can't say Jerry's name on here now. There are "stories" out there about ED C. saying cars was destroyed and they showed up. I have heard the same of Joel Rosen not documenting a car, then a week or two later the owners get a crazy offer on a car that is not a documented car. I just think not every one is perfect, especially me! JMO

[sYc]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JD502</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kinda of funny that someone can't say Jerry's name on here now. There are &quot;stories&quot; out there about ED C. saying cars was destroyed and they showed up. I have heard the same of Joel Rosen not documenting a car, then a week or two later the owners get a crazy offer on a car that is not a documented car. I just think not every one is perfect, especially me! JMO
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Ed C. and Joel have not been banned from this board. Jerry has, not once but twice.

[iluv69s]

I usually take the high road on these conversations, but why is it that when I mentioned Jerry M's name a few weeks ago, my post got deleted and I was PM'd to &quot;please not mention his name here as he has been banned&quot;....and a few days later I notice a thread here about SSR BOB which basically was a thread created to trash him??

So we can mention his name as long as we are trashing him??

I respectfully ask 'Can someone please tell me the rules here??'

Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball..every announcer in the world talks about him..and appreciates what he has done for the sport...

Love him or hate him, Jerry M has done a great service for this hobby in just the knowledge that he has brought forward through his research and his books...I believe his books have been a very valuable resource for many of us.

This owner of this COPO obviously knows about him as he has already used his resto. services..what is the big secret?

I know personally that him documenting my cars was a big part of the reason that helped sell them..

I am here just trying to give the best advice I can to a fellow member that is seeking advice...
Isnt that what this forum is all about???

Sorry if I have ruffled any feathers here...

..and sorry for going on a tangent on this thread...I hope the higher ups have the courage to not delete this..(or delete me for that matter...hehe)I have always admired and respected this site and it's members and am dearly greatful for all the help and knowledge I have recieved here.

respectfully, Max

[al8apex]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I usually take the high road on these conversations, but why is it that when I mentioned Jerry M's name a few weeks ago, my post got deleted and I was PM'd to &quot;please not mention his name here as he has been banned&quot;....and a few days later I notice a thread here about SSR BOB which basically was a thread created to trash him??

So we can mention his name as long as we are trashing him??

I respectfully ask 'Can someone please tell me the rules here??'

Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball..every announcer in the world talks about him..and appreciates what he has done for the sport...

Love him or hate him, Jerry M has done a great service for this hobby in just the knowledge that he has brought forward through his research and his books...I believe his books have been a very valuable resource for many of us.

This owner of this COPO obviously knows about him as he has already used his resto. services..what is the big secret?

I know personally that him documenting my cars was a big part of the reason that helped sell them..

I am here just trying to give the best advice I can to a fellow member that is seeking advice...
Isnt that what this forum is all about???

Sorry if I have ruffled any feathers here...

..and sorry for going on a tangent on this thread...I hope the higher ups have the courage to not delete this..(or delete me for that matter...hehe)I have always admired and respected this site and it's members and am dearly greatful for all the help and knowledge I have recieved here.

respectfully, Max </div></div>

IMHO (&lt;MY humble opinion) if someone doesn't know enough about what they are buying they shouldn't be buying it.

If it makes you feel better because (I am going on a long stretch here to make a point) a note from your mommy (that is the stretch) says it is ok or anyone else you pay to appraise whatever, then you are in the hobby for the wrong reasons.

Yes, there are MANY crooks out there (coff RG 69 Z28 rebody coff) and someone will always be stretching &quot;facts&quot; to fluff up whatever they are selling.

Bottom line is (IMHO again) do your homework BEFORE you pull the trigger. IF that homework involves the services of someone that may know more than you about a particular subject, certainly enlist them to assist you.

Getting back to the thread topic, I hope everything works out well, people do funny things when they smell $$$$$$

[sYc]

We would rather there be no discussion, good or bad, about Jerry, but A. after being banned he posted under another username B. you, and a couple of others, after repeated PMs to not do so, continue to mention his name.

Though you may have have the upmost respect for him, some of us here do not share your opinion.

[firstgenaddict]

well said Jim.
I for one wish prices would subside as it would take some speculators out of the markets and allow the ones who truly enjoy the cars back in...
However in dealing with these high end cars people want FACTORY PAPER, whether it has matching numbers or not. What most laypeople people do not realize is there is an awful LOT of fake paper, which is why the verification of paperwork is so critical to Chevrolets.
JAG

[iluv69s]

Jim I am a bit surprised by some of your statements.....

---&quot;IMHO (&lt;MY humble opinion) if someone doesn't know enough about what they are buying they shouldn't be buying it.&quot;

I figure that is the purpose to enlist an expert..to educate yourself about what you are buying. I paid many realtors and building inspectors for thier opinion before buying the properties that I own. I feel anyone with the cash has the right to buy whatever they want...this is America isn´t it? Do they need to be an expert?

---&quot;If it makes you feel better because (I am going on a long stretch here to make a point) a note from your mommy (that is the stretch) says it is ok or anyone else you pay to appraise whatever, then you are in the hobby for the wrong reasons.&quot;

I bought my first 67 RS Camaro when I was 15 years old and have since owned over 200 early Camaros from six bangers to a real Zl-1. I think I qualify as a &quot;real&quot; Camaro fan and that I am in the hobby for the right reason. I have never paid anyone to apraise or document one of my cars <span style="font-weight: bold">before</span> buying it. But, if I wanted to buy a high dollar car and was in doubt of its authenticity, I sure would feel better having an experts opinion..I think that is the norm in many hobbies..art, antiques, collectibles and cars also. Do you really believe that statement??
I am sure that many of the people here on this forum have paid an expert before buying a car...be it Marti report, Galen Govier, etc. So which of us fellow members are you refering to that are in the hobby for the wrong reason? With the plethora of fake cars,I feel it woul be rather stupid not to.

---&quot;IF that homework involves the services of someone that may know more than you about a particular subject, certainly enlist them to assist you.&quot;

But you just stated that someone that does this is in the hobby for the wrong reason...I´m confused...do you condone this or no??

I have always tried to be 100% respectful to you and everyone else on this board. I am a bit surprised by your sarcasm toward me..I apologize if I am misunderstanding your statement/attitude.

At this point I will take the high road and refrain from pettiness that persists here at times...

as before, |I wish the best luck to the owner of this car and if he wants my honest opinion &quot;without caring about personality clashes&quot;, he can PM me...


just my humble opinion...

[iluv69s]

Tom, I apologize for mentioning his name after You asked me not to. I hope you understand my confusion when a few days later a thread was started that was soley about him to the point where there were even pictures posted of him.
As far as respecting him..I could care less either way...I do not know him that well. I was going by my personal experiences and I was only trying to help a fellow member...

But , I assure, I will not mention him again here.

Max

[iluv69s]

JAG....


with all due respect,I am confused by your statement also....

--&quot;However in dealing with these high end cars people want FACTORY PAPER, whether it has matching numbers or not. What most laypeople people do not realize is there is an awful LOT of fake paper, which is why the verification of paperwork is so critical to Chevrolets.
JAG&quot;

what part of Jim´s statement was well said?? It sounds like you are agreeing with me and not him that it is a great idea to get an expert to document a car and the adjoining paperwork. Let´s face it, because all of us are not experts. And I believe that the average laymen have every right to buy a Camaro as much as the experts here.

just my humble opinion...max

[TDW]

If he has the POP for your car, it belongs to you. It sounds like he stole it from you many years ago. If that is the case, that makes him a low life thief in my opinion. Go get YOUR property back.