67 (YENKO) baldwin motion identification question

[CTChevelle]

Matt
Here is a link to the previous thread with the Yenko's for sale in MA. Yenko's for sale.
One is for two '67s advertised at Rudy's. Good luck!

Steve

[berger]

thanks for digging them up, since I live in Ma. I'm gonna go through the Springfield census records for both addresses , get the full names, and run a search through the internetfor surrounding areas, If any matches pop up , i'll call them and see, both sound interesting, the search is worth a try if I can get an orig. owner w/ pics or a protectoplate or something. Thanks again

[JoeC]

I have done a lot of research on the 67 Yenko Camaro and can give my opinions. My original pictures and talk with original owner shows no Yenko crest and no Yenko tags. At the time I found my car all the restored Yenko Camaros had a Yenko crest on the fender and Warren did say he thought they put YS# tags on the 67 Camaros but I can find no original 1967 pictures of the Yenko crest and no 67 Yenko Camaros with YS# tags. Yenko seemed to be proud of his Yenko crest, as most would be, and put it on some of his racecars and streetcars. In original Yenko pictures there are 1968 Camaros and Corvettes with the crest but found none on 67s. Also there has been info from other original owners of 67 Yenko Camaros who said no crest. I also found some evidence that Yenko was working on a 1967 COPO Camaro and some of the 67 trim tags have a dash that I can find no explanation for. I talked with Jerry M , Larry C and some CRG guys but can’t pin down anything on the dash yet. Still working on that but I believe at least some of the 67 Yenko Camaros were special ordered cars. We know the Stingers were, so this would not be unusual for Yenko to get some type of special order. If anyone is researching the 67 or 68 Yenko Camaros I would like to hear from them.

[berger]

hey joe,I wonder if yenko had first dibbs on the big blocks when they rolled off in early june 67',my car was built fifth week of may or first week of june, I guess it had to be one of the first, Warren said about that time the cars came w/ the 427s from chevy either directly to yenko or right to harrell if they were full, he seemed to imply they came w/ the 427 short block in it but then would need building up, he said they definetly didn't take receipt of the cars w/ a bunch of crate motors soon to follow or already waiting for them at the shop, Maybe the 54 list includes all ss350 conversions at yenko, and the 107 list includes the big blocks that started to follow mid year w/ 427 short blocks in them, Kevin's seems to be a mid year big block that went directly to harrell for assembly w/ receipts. The straight six vins might be factual cuz Harrell could probably take on converting these if copo dropped 427 short blocks in them to start, maybe chevy started w a few of them to get the idea how to set up the big block car for a motor that size ( such as installing a new heater box for clearance and beefier motor mounts, what does a straight six motor mount look like?( In all maybe yenko did the 54, and harrell did the other 53) Do you know anything about a vertical date stamp under the heater box near the inner fender support mine says h 17 r the 1 and r are underlined w/a dash, I have a h19 in between my drivers side door hinges , guys tell me it means august 17 and 19 but how could it if it was built in early june, does this imply a 66' diecast stamp when the body came from fisher, one guy says the r stands for right side and that their would be an L on the other side, but their clearly is not just H 19, so what could the R in H17 R stand for.

[berger]

well i found a rudys auto service in Seaford ,ny 3586 Merrick rd. Bill Arnold is manager, I'll ask if they originated in Springfield back in the sixties.

[Denis]

"H 19" is a sheet metal date stamp. The "H" is the year, starting with "A"=1960, so "H"=1967. The 19 is the week# in the year.

For example, "H 19" is the 19th week of 1967, which starts on Sunday, May 14 -- which makes sense given your car's assembly date.

Not sure about the 'R' but I agree with the other folks who say it means right-hand-side.

P.S.: Count the gears...

[berger]

That's sounds better to me denis but where is my L onthe left there isn't one just r underlined on under the heater box, that one says h 17, does this mean the right side was welded together the 17th week and the left side was welded together the 19th, did it take that long to get around to the other side, or were they taking their time trying to figure the first bigblocks on how to set them up for their drivetrains, the 1 in 17 is also underlined, but not the 7 or H for that matter, the 1 on the 19 appears underlined but nothing else. ALso was the orig bigblock cars just a z28 body and frame but a different heaterbox, did the z28 also have a taller driver's side mount ( if so probably for weight distribution on trans am tracks?) If the bigblock inherited this platform, they probably didn't forsee the heater box clearance issue till they tried to drop the first one in.

[Charley Lillard]

The date stamps were when the panel was stamped out on a machine not when the panel was welded. Your car started as a Camaro body not a SS or Z28, they all start as Camaro bodys. You might go to www.camaros.org and look around. They have plenty of Camaro facts.

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
The straight six vins might be factual cuz Harrell could probably take on converting these if copo dropped 427 short blocks in them to start, maybe chevy started w a few of them to get the idea how to set up the big block car for a motor that size ( such as installing a new heater box for clearance and beefier motor mounts, what does a straight six motor mount look like?

[/ QUOTE ] So do you think the 6 VIN on your car may be correct for the car now ?

[berger]

nope, doesn't coincide w/ number stamped into car on top of cowl, and in heaterbox, I'm just saying my car is only on the 107 list which also has straight six vins on it, people say these numbers aren't real yenkos, but the old yenko mechanic has my work orders and ys# on paperwork w/ vin for 5000$ of coarse so I won't be taking possesion of those for awhile.