1970 Ls6 Convertible

[Belair62]

Is the pilot car for sale ???

[camarojoe]

Now its all starting to make sense...

[Steve Shauger]

2 FORSALE: 1970 Chevelle LS6 "pilot car" — Virginia 02/24/2004 — Details
I'm listing my green 1970 LS6 chevelle "pilot car" for sale. It is a matching numbered (engine and all accessories (carb, wp, manifolds, dist, etc.), trans, rear), fully documented car. The car has 2 buildsheets (both showing the "pilot status"), a POP, original owner info.& zone rep info (can call both and discuss), and a letter from Jim Mattison attesting to the "pilot status." The car is very highly optioned, was cosmetically restored in 1995. Car has CI, gauges, buckets, tilt, cushion grip,p/s,rear defroster,am/fm stero, posi,etc. Picures avaiable upon request. If you are a tire kicker don't waste my time..If you want info. call me...not some "guru," that hasn't seen the car...Phone is 800-669-5834 or 804-314-7732 or 804-932-8547..This is an investment that you can drive and enjoy, so no BS'ers..If you want a "run of the mill" LS6 look elsewhere...This is the only "pilot car" LS6 found to date and it IS the earliest (good possibity the FIRST production LS6)car to date as well..

Man you guys really "read" into things...guess that is a way to discredit my opinion or viewpoint since I differ from some of you...Guess since I hang out at Langley or Peary some you guys will next have me knowing where Hoffa is and who shot Kennedy (not Oswald btw...lol) Whether the "pilot car" is for sale or not has nothing to do with this discussion. I had listed it recently on another site as I'm buying a few more homes (my idea of better investments...go Donald..lol) and wanted some additional cash. Whether I sell it or not isn't procluding me from buying more property to use as investments.. I actually offered the car earlier to someone here for what amounted to the price of a SS396 L34 car as I thought they would appreciate the car, were not a specualtor, and we are good friends.

I bought the car back origianlly in 2001, and didn't pay a "specualted" price. When I bought it back it wasn't for any other reason than I liked it..It wasn't about the money, and I would have paid substantially more money becasue I believe in the car and know it well..The point is I'm just like everyone else..I'm not going to "give it away" and I expect "fair market" value.. However I'm not specualting that this car will always be worth the current prices, nor do I care..It isn't an investment to me..whether short term or long term..The reality though is I bought a car based on my personal likes, BUT since others do perceive these things to be great investments I bought one that is a "no excuses" car..to maximize that asspect of this hobby..I have commerical and residental real estate for investments, along with stocks, bonds, etc.

I personally think it is funny that some of you guys get so worked up over this thread..If it wasn't in the back of your mind (the investment asspect or how overly inflated some cars are), you wouldn't be trying to defend these cars the way you are..You would just realize it is my opinion...

Whether the Yenko that I posted about earlier sells for good money or not is a matter of opinion at this point..My personal opinion is it sold for that much money, probably because there was a naive buyer and less than full disclosure. Charley if you feel it is still work 150k..then buy it and put it up here for others to see..the same goes for anyone else...I'm a Marine and I'm not into a lot of "talk," let's see some action..If you guys feel that these cars are going up all the time..then someone call Mark H. and pay him 325k for the Yenko chevelle..Better yet Mark list the car for 275K at B/J next year or put it in another auction if it sells 9bonafide sale to someone other than ######., ######, or one of the gang..)then I'll admit my opinion was incorrect..I appreciate you guys abililty to pay these amounts and more power to you if you sell them..Just don't get steamed up because I don't have the same opinion on these cars...

BTW.."essee's are Escalades...SUV's are very popular at least here in the "dirty south.."lol

[yountto]

Belair, Ok then,i will make it short..I have a problem with cars that have "joes a good guy", "Tim judged it",and "BOB put gas in it in 1977" as "documenting" a car.Its done more on this site than ANYWHERE else.Probably because theres not alot of documentation available on these cars like buildsheets etc..The "supercars" are usually mentioned because thats what this site is about more than any other car .I dont specifically have ANY problem with copos [and im currently in the market for one],other than i wouldnt own one that wasnt canada documented[my personal preference]unless it was priced as a well done clone[again my personal preference]. ...After watching the Ebay ls6 gain momentum in acceptability because of the ebay bidding list and one persons opinion,i brought up the fact that now that there were members here bidding on it,everyone jumped on the "its an original car" bandwagon,when for the last year it was for sale not nary a word was said.I guess now that the car went elsewhere we can talk about how worthless the ls6s are again.....Can you imagine how many more 435 67 corvettes would be made"legitimate" if the NCRS started "documenting" cars based on a judges opinion and a Zora Duntov signed glove box??]?????? Simply put,you cant campaign a car as 100% legit UNLESS you have factory legitimate paperwork or in the case of the ZL1s,the vin #,and that will always be the universal litmus test...On another note ..On dreamcar garage, in between the "yenko chevelles and camaros are 150k and novas 300k",didnt i hear an "although not as desirable as an Ls6 convertible" in that sentence correct me if i am wrong

Steve

No offense, as I thought we were friends (at least through the phone/internet), but why post the ad for sale?? What difference does it make?? We are discussing opinions here, and mine and yours differ..that is all..why try to read into something?? The 2 have nothing to do with each other...

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Something's fishy here...
Oh, it's just me, & my heads spinnin

[Belair62]

[ QUOTE ]
didn't pay a "specualted" price.

[/ QUOTE ]Are you going to sell it cheap !!! since you didn't pay up for it...this is interesting news that it's for sale ! Yountto..I wouldn't buy one that was presented as that either. But the car you will accept is going to cost a lot of money.Even one of those well restored clones may have some overpriced rare parts on them that the owner may want to recoup..keep looking. Kind of a strange thread and to tell you the truth I had a feeling the pilot car would be for sale...I hope you find one of those young whipper snappers that drive esses to pay up for it Greg. !! I never heard an Escalade called an ess...I like those...with 22's on em !

[Steve Shauger]

I only used your car as an example, because it validated my point " cars with historical significance are at a premium". Nothing more should be read into it. No problem here Greg...

[Supergas990]

I normally don't step into these threads because I don't know any of you and don't want to step on anyones toes.

But, this thread seems to be discussing the kind of problem lots of people would like to have... which one and how much, how many, documented, etc...

I for one would love to have a COPO, Yenko, LS6 Conv, L89 Conv, Motion, etc... and I believe that they are worth a great deal of money. Can I justify that kind of money to my wife and family? Probably not. (If someone wants to sell one that needs a good "no resale" home at a below market price please e-mail me )

Do some people use them as investments? Yes. Do most people that own them enjoy them? Yes.

The bottom line is a car, or anything else for that matter, is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Those with Champaign wishes and Caviar dreams will be able to own some of the greatest cars ever made is America, while those of us with a Miller and Steak will watch from behind the wheels of our SS Chevelles, Camaros, Novas, etc...(also great American made classics).

Hope that I didn't ruffle too many feathers. This hobby should NEVER be about the "haves" versus the "have nots". In the end, we're all car guys that can hopefully appreciate each others rides without too much envy.

Blair