RAIV and RAV more continuation....

[Steve_Hoog]

Dajudge

Way back you asked me if I was writing articles in the Goatfinder about RAV:

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Are you the same guy who has been advertising in the Goat Finder about the same topic for some time now?

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Was that in reference to this?

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"'UPDA TE FROM LAST MONTH Regarding the controversy stirred by Steve Hoog's letter about Factory RA V Tunnel-Port cars last month we have the follow*ing additional information to share with you: The car in question is a Sliver/Black '70 RA IV/4Sp JUDGE with a 4.33 posl rear, from KNAFEL PONTIAC In Akron, OH. There Is a me*mo on the build sheet "memo 2-38" which lists a price of over $200, not $15 as incor*recdy reported last month. The car is an Original 19,000-Mile car. The RA V engine was blown up when the car was 2 yrs old. It sat stored until the current owner bought it 4-5 years ago, who's name we do not have permission to reve'al. The owner contacted PHS who were very vague in their response to the car. He then contacted Bill Knafel himself and he remembered this particular car being delivered to his dealership with a RA V engine already installed. This is what Knafel had to say:
"We had a number of 1970 GTO JUDGEs delivered to us with RA V engines. Plus, we also Installed a number of the RA V engines at my dealership. After all of these years, as well as we can ascertain, this car was Originally delivered to my dealership with a RA V engine. For doubters call me330)-836-0338." Knafel later wrote some articles for Smoke Signals magazine (as well as for the GOATFINDER) which mentioned this car specifically. The owner has nearly one hundred Pontiacs, all rare and collectable, including a '71 LeMans SportlGT with a 455HO Ram Air/Automatic, which the books say could not be ordered, yet the car exists, and Is fully-clocumented!



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No this wasn't me, my guess is it was Bill's son:

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Knafel, W J

2678 Abington Rd
FAIRLAWN, OH 44333
330-836-0338

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I did write one private email to The Goatfinder in reference to a quote by The Goatfinder that was posted on Sean Mattingly's site. The Goatfinder published it without asking my permission.

Then you said this:

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I really believe in my heart that this whole RA V hype job is all about the money.


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No it's not about money. No one has sold anyting from the debate that took place a year ago, it's about history.

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Hey Steved you want me to let it go? Look back at page 9 post # 59392 just recently you stated that you spoke to a gentlemen "who used to run cars through the assembly line that would end up in engineering only a few feet away." You don't like to be corrected when you are caught. I am just pointing this out so people do not mistake you for the expert that you think you are.

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Yes I did talk to several people on the phone and I some what remember this one person saying things similar to this.

If he was wrong, that makes the entire RAV debate null and void?

After GTAA asked some questions and I referenced the forgone debate, I went back and read some of it. It seems I left some stuff unfinished. I didn't want to restart the original thread, and I SURE don't want to start any negative business back up. Just trying to answer your questions in a peacable way.