Dick Harrell drag car (new thread)

[copolocater]

This is no longer about my car> I don't care about my car. What I do care about is the authenticity of the other two cars. Dick's extended nose funny car, which was supposed to be the only car had a 125" wheel base. The 118" wheel base fit only under a stock body car! The back up car that Tom relates to...What is it and we would like to see pictures. If we are seeking the truth, let's find it! Within the next week, not after completion of any car. if I am wrong, I will stand up like a man and apologize to EVERYONE!! Agaain, this is not about my car. This is about one car and Tom Clary's back up car, the one I assumed you had....if not you then who!! My car is not a DH car. Now we have that understanding, now let's move on. Information and pictures of BOTH cars please. Let's get to the truth.

[sYc]

Tim; I think the time to apoligize is now. And not only you, but several others, who became involved in something they knew little about. I, for one, am very disappointed in how this all played out on this site. Right now I am ashamed and embarrassed to say that I am part of the current "supercar hobby". Tom

[mc25t190]

i, like , stefano would like to hear from knowledgable people like these new members. nancy never authenticated the car and was just using the number 150 times as a figure of speach and trips to the drag strip. her curiosity was so aroused that the last we saw her she was going to get her mom to see the car, from there? i appreciate the fact there are people with knowledge, me not being one, but was certainly there to here the conversation. i am not making up what i heard and the excitement she shared with us. i like everyone else, sisxties muscles, and others would enjoy the finality of what it is or isn't. when i was there i heard what i heard but never did i say she said it definitely was, she just pointed to numerous items on the car that indicated that it could have been. my apologies to anyone who has taken offense. nancy was very excited , avery nice lady, and spoke with great knowledge that got us all excited about the car. if anyone had heard what we heard it was enough to make anyone reach for there wallet and take a chance. i wasn't the only that was willing to buy it on the spot based on what i heard, again not saying she authenticated the car. the last we saw her she was going after mom.

[sYc]

Tim, I do not have, nor do I know who does, have the second car. I was told by a reliable source a couple of years ago about it. As far as they knew, only a portion of the chassis remained, as the car had been rebodied, maybe to a '70. What I do have is a 1968, which is why I have researched vintage FCs. It is believed to be Dick's Courtesy car, but I am still doing the research. That is one reason Dave Libby was at the reunion. He had some pictures for me. Tom

[Charley Lillard]

Perhaps the owner of the backup car does not want any info on the car released to the Public. Or maybe it is being kept quiet because of possible purchase. If I knew where it was I don't think I would post that info on any Web site as it would most certainly hurt my chances of owning it. I don't think we need proof of the backup car to settle this dispute.. I would also like to thank the Gibbs for coming to Vettefest and thankyou Helen for signing my cars. My ZL1 wasn't sold at Gibb but it wouldn't exist if not for Freds efforts. Helen is sharp as a Tack and traveled by Train to come to the show. I do Hope that what has transpired here does not deter them from coming to future shows.

[moparts]

"I have heard reports of a possible 2nd '69, or at least part of one, but this may be rumor." (Tom Clary)

"69 funnycar-looks like a duck talks like a duck could it be?" (copolocator)

"This is about one car and Tom Clary's back up car, the one I assumed you had...."(copolocator)

Assumed Ass....out....of.....u....and.....me... (don't remember who said it but it was a good line in a movie)

[mc25t190]

charlie,
very well put!

[sYc]

"My car is not a DH car. Now we have that understanding, now let's move on. " Copolocater

Now that we have that settled, and the bandwagon is almost empty, I am headed to my shop to sand on a Nova. Tom

[davenkc]

Tom and all

I will try to explain the existance of both 68 f/c as I know it.
Dick's 68 car in it's ORIGNAL configuration was a new construction by Don Hardy painted the same as the 67 (ie)
Chevy red with a black spray on vinyl top later it lost the black top when it was repainted a different shade of red overall. side note this was done after the plan to have 4 cars with the red/black combo, The car that Ken Bojie has now being one Dick f/c, a Chevelle formula stock and a camaro prostock. That didn't happen hence the 1st repaint.
Again after a short time it was repainted to the red/orange/burgandy combo most remember best. fast forward to end of season that car was sold to John McFadden, exactly how it moved from him to who you got it from is just not in the bank of info of what I know. After all that happened 1500 miles away. Going Back to mid year when the repossed 67 car was sold (67 will be explained in my next post) Dick made a deal with Jim Kirby to use his car to replace what the now sold 67 car had beem doing. As you Tom have mentioned it was a 68 Hardy car but inj.only Painted gold.Otherwise it was a near twin to Dick's car. It was painted by my brother a sort of plum color and we changed it over to a blown combination. (the loan of the car deal)
There is a picture of this car already posted early on in this thread so no need to post it again. It is the one with Dick's name on the Quarter panel and Jim Kirby on the front fender. BTY That is me and my older brother in that pic.
After all concerned grew tired of that plum color (it really was not very pretty). It was again painted red with a sort of beige/gold lace not too unlike what the 69 was patterned after. I have seen a picture of this paint job also in this thread. The clue is the name Jim Kirby on the front fender. RUMOR has it that Jim still has this car but that is as I say RUMOR. It is in my opinion that this is a moot point anyway no matter WHO has it if in fact it does still exist because it is NOT a Dick Harrell car! only one he used for a short time. It is a Jim Kirby car. Charlie drove it mostly anyway.
I am going to attempt to attach a picture of the above mentioned "Kirby car" with Charlie driving racing the 68 SuperCuda. I sincerly hope this will clear some of the fog around this matter.
Dave Libby

[sixtiesmuscle]

Dave, thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge. I still have a question though. If Dick built [or had built] and drove a car, even for a little while, and, it carried his name, how is it not a Dick Harrell car? Is the protocol in funny cars to consider the car to be only one that was driven by the last driver?

As far as being embarrassed, Tom, come on. There have been alot more hostile discussions on this site before this. Let's not forget, these are JUST CARS!! The truth always comes out, EVENTUALLY, and we have to acknowledge that there are monetary motivations behind many of our dealings. I agree, a bit more civility and respect is appropriate, but, sometimes a good honest argument is what it takes to hear all sides.
I admit my interests are more in stock & superstock race cars, so, maybe it's different in the funny car world. As one member stated recently, we need edumacation. Mike Guarise