1970 RAIV Judge Ragtops

[MosportGreen66]

Sometimes over the internet a simple comment can skyrocket into a mess only because the original intent/direction of the 'poster' is not known. This website is a great free education -- lets not take advantage of it with "slams" or harsh words.

You guys are and don't diss cars with low HP...

[yellowjudge]

No hard feelings here! Low HP or not.HA!! We all have common interest in these classic cars. We should keep board as an informative Mecca!

[Belair62]

I just love to get you Passionate poncho guys every now and then !!!Ooops...I forgot I have one ! And a lot of you poncho guys helped me out with it...

[Pantera]

You better be carefull how you talk or some of those "poncho guys" may have to take you out behind the woodshed for some extra instruction..!

[yellowjudge]

Hey, the best instruction you can give him, would be to buy some more Pontiacs!~ HA!!!!

[Belair62]

I am getting older and it's harder to control that BB horspower under foot so I just may start looking at more Pontiacs.

[StealthBird]

I heard Pontiac made a car in 73/74 with a whopping .407 lift, 8.4 to 1 compression, weighed 3800 lbs, and somehow managed to run 13's off the showroom floor. Sounds pretty boring to me.

The understated, the underated, the underdog. We like it that way.

[DaJudge]

That sounds like an SD455 TA to me.

[JoeG]

1973 SUPER DUTY FIREBIRD--Nice engine--in a looking car,--Shame they couldn't/didn't offer it sooner----

[dave hernandez]

Hi, everybody! I'm new to this forum, wanted to put in a posting with a few facts and a short story. About three months ago, I got my new issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines in the mail and I saw an ad with a sharp looking 70 Judge Convertible in it and I showed my wife of seven years the pic and said, "Hey, honey, this is kinda what my old Judge Convertible woulda looked like, restored, except mine had an off-white top and interior" A few weeks later, I was talking to a friend back east who's into Judge cars and parts, (not Eric) who said, "Hey, your old car is going up for sale near Chicago with Mecum" I said, are you sure? I saw that car and it has a black top and int. He said, yeah a collector who owned it in Texas didn't like the Sandalwood and changed it, when he restored it,before selling it to a guy in Milwaukee that markets them. Well, needless to say, after having owned the car from 82 or 3 to 96, I was interested in seeing it in restored condition, so I made the 3 hour drive to Belvidere, near Chicago to have a look, I took a copy of the PHS docs I had gotten for the car back when I first bought it, back then PHS was in Pontiac's headquarters and you called a number and requested it and they sent it out for free! Anyway, the auction day I found the car on display in the main auction tent, and asked the Mecum guy guarding it if I could take a look, he said Ok after I told him it was my old car, but he said the owner wasn't there, because I wanted to introduce myself and offer myself as info for a contact as provenance and info. (I had compiled a list of all the previous owners when I owned the car before, In Iowa that's available through the DMV, at least it was, then) Anyway, in the tent, I had a hard time believing it was the same car, until I pulled out my copy of the PHS and the VIN's were the same. The car looked sharp, but the stripes were Blue, Orange, Pink instead of the correct Yellow, Blue, Red. The car now had a hood tach, didn't come with one. Had sport mirrors, originally had chromed remote driver's mirror. Had a Formula steering wheel, originally had a Deluxe wheel color matched in Sandalwood, originally had door edge guards, now missing, originally had wheel well trim, now missing. The info board said, all numbers matching, including tranny,I was wondering how they found the original Muncie with the VIN stamped in it, because when I got the car it was gone and I couldn't locate it by calling
the previous owners. Back to when I bought the car, I had bought it from a friend here in town and when I bought it, the engine was out and the tranny and bell-housing and linkages gone, but that didn't bother me because I intended on restoring it and it was going to be a fairly easy restoration on a low mileage (67 or 76,000 mile car, I can't remember which) that I wound up selling after a divorce. The old 70 Judge convertible was a very solid car that just had a little rust in the rear quarters at the bottom, and I'm glad to see it sell for so much, it helps vindicate that I'd been saying since i bought it in '82 for $2500,that it would be worth a quarter milliom by 2000, well. I guess I was off a little! Anyway, as the saying goes, "that's the REST of the story! Thanks, -Dave