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manhein auctions sells around 10,000 to 15,000 cars a day and they check all of them....... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah..they check and make sure they are able to roll.
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I must be in that other one percent!!
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i recently bought a 1969 silver copo 427 camaro @ russo and steele in fort lauderdale , i took it home a day or two later i got a phone call from a friend and he told me to check the car out real good because he heard or a rumor that the camaro was a re-body , i remove the cowl and found that the car was a re-body , i contacted russo and steele and they treated terrible . [/ QUOTE ] I would say you treated yourself terrible by not doing your homework. |
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Unfortunately ALL auction companies hide behind the vail of we present the cars and it's up to you to determine the authenticity which is extremely tough given the circumstances of the auction environment. They all do more harm than good in falsely inflating prices and "representing" real cars but when you get stuck "oh well you should have been more careful". I quickly learned that these auctions are not the place to buy true top shelf cars because it falls back on being a business first and not the advocate someone who's spending 250k to 500k on a car needs.
I wish you luck, but having looked at all their contracts thoroughly I feel you may be throwing more bad money at an already bad event. Steve 70 LS6 Chevelle 69 COPO Coupe 68 Shelby KR Convert 68 Shelby KR fastback
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I am brand new to this forum - this is my first post. I am currently looking for a 67-70 big block Chevelle and try to read as much as possible concerning these cars. My problem is that I am not an expert in this field - I am lucky enough to be able to finally afford one of these cars after raising a family and getting the kids out of the house. My take on any auction house is that if they are going to accept the huge commissions that come with these misrepresented cars - then they need to be the police of their own auction house. If a car is represented as COPO or ZL1 or whatever, then that car needs to be certified as such. The cost of this should originally be borne by the owner who wants to sell it as such. If this was done with every car that was sold, the cars would probably sell for more than enough money to cover that additional cost because the buyer knows that he is getting a "certified" car. Each seller would be required to do this before it could be sold as such. If he didn't want to do it - fine - let the market decide where the price should be. After several years, there would exist a large database of certified cars that would make the industry a lot safer to a rookie buyer like myself. This isn't an overnight fix, but it is sure better than what exists now. Yes, there would be some glitches, but everything can be solved if enough thought is put into it.
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Welcome to the site. You should post a wanted ad for what you are looking for. There are many here that come upon good cars and good advise.
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There is a solution to this and no one has seized the obvious. All reputable certifiers ( a step above an appraiser) should be bonded. Of course this would not be a simple program and the guide book would be an inch thick. A large insurance company could back such a program and make sure certain steps were followed, no matter the car. Certifiers would have a limited field such as Duesenberg or COPO's. My guess would be there would only be a handful of certifiers in each specialty.
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That sounds like a good idea, there is no reason a program could not be designed around a premise like that. Cost feasibility is the main question though.
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Hi David
Welcome, what part of the Buckeye State are you from ?? Mike ![]() |
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