Ted Nugent; Deer Hunter vs French journalist

[GRB]

I'd like to know under what circumstances Nugent was a draft dodger. When did he admit it? What did he say?

There were many of us who in the late '60's and early 70's got wise to the fact that that low life SOB (and other words that can't be used here), along with the even lower POS Robert McNamara, et al, were doing nothing more than deciding on a daily basis how many young American men would be political canon fodder that day. This was in fact the beginning of our affection for PC war, limited engagement and excessive guilt over 'collateral damage', which is a part of any GD war. You don't get your own men killed to save of few so-called "innocent" victims! Did we warn Hiroshima so the 'good' Japanese could flee????

This is why many Viet Nam era Americans loath LBJ and his America hating administration much in the same way the Jewish people hate Hitler. I hope to God LBJ and his ilk are burning in Hell right now.

If this was the stand Nugent took I support it 100%. My lottery number was 157 or so and I had already made up my mind that while I would die in a TRUE war, I would not die in vain and senselessly in a PC war that we had absolutely no intention of winning and certainly not for LBJ.

One of my best friends came back from Nam with his lower jaw blown off. A once 230lb. football player came home in a wheel chair weighing no more that 125lbs. and within a year could no longer stand the suffering and took his own life. Thanks LBJ!

[x Baldwin Motion]

Though I have no opinion on this or its validity (like some cars at the BJ auction) here is an excerpt from one of many sites that have similar stories about Ted.

5. Q: Ted Nugent Served in Vietnam? A: False. For all his right wing rhetoric and tough talk during the Gulf War, Terrible Ted was a yellow-livered draft dodger. In fact Ted went to great lengths to fail his army physical. He fasted for a week and drank pot after pot of coffee to drive up his blood pressure. He didn't bathe for weeks and showed up with a turd in his pants and another in his hair. Uncle Sam found Ted unfit for military service.

http://www.havocrex.com/press/article/1/15

(this is the same old story that has been around for more than thirty years. I have even met people that told me they did something similar to stay home.)

Dont shoot the messenger

[agtw31]

google ted nugent draft dodger

[Verne_Frantz]

I don't usually get into political discussions, but if Ted did what he did to avoid the draft, maybe in the long run that was the better thing for others concerned. If he was that much against holding a rifle in the rice patties and told to kill people......would you rather have him drafted anyway only to have him next to you in battle when you're depending on him.?

Some people are cut out for it and some are not. If he managed to figure out a way to not be there, it just might have been better for those who were there and needed to depend on him.

[GRB]

Interesting. I would like to ask TN if he would have served in WWII.

[nuch_ss396]

I don't know Verne. I think a lot of guys would have been
happy to poop in their own hat if that would have kept them
out of Charlie's back yard. I don't fault him for not going.

My dad stormed the beaches of Normandy and went to
the end of hostilities in Berlin. He did not want me or my
older brother to go to Vietnam under those circumstances.

Maybe we better let this one alone. Old wounds.........
Slick Willie dind't go either, and he became President.

Steve

[Verne_Frantz]

Yes, lots of old wounds. When you think of it all, it kind of puts this whole car collecting thing on the back burner, doesn't it?

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't usually get into political discussions, but if Ted did what he did to avoid the draft, maybe in the long run that was the better thing for others concerned. If he was that much against holding a rifle in the rice patties and told to kill people......would you rather have him drafted anyway only to have him next to you in battle when you're depending on him.?

Some people are cut out for it and some are not. If he managed to figure out a way to not be there, it just might have been better for those who were there and needed to depend on him.



[/ QUOTE ]

Verne, as always your voice of reason prevails. There was nothing worse than having someone next to you in the service that you counted on, but they were unable to come through. I had one sad suborinate respond to an order with "You can't make me care". I never asked him to do another thing. He was very alone. Sad.

[Verne_Frantz]

Chris, I'm glad you made it back and I'm proud of you for everything you did.

Thank you!

Verne

[sYc]

What if no one cared to serve? Would we now be speaking German, Japanese or ??

God bless the US of A and the ones who serve.