ZL 1 #36

[Charley Lillard]

Bob...I'm guessing you are getting heat because apparently the ZL1 in this thread got a silver ? I know there has been crap between two web sites and the folks that restored this car are usually associated with the other web site and there always seems to be two sides picking each others cars apart. You can throw out my comments on this car if you wish but here are a couple and I'm trying to be unbiased, especially since the car is not from the so called Yenko.net camp. I saw the car in person and saw the resto book on display. In addition to the steering arm bolts being in backwards there were several other obvious errors on the car that even a non judge like me saw. I think the cowl induction air cleaner seal was inside out at Vettefest but in the pic on this thread it is now correct. The yellow paint marks on all the bolts I have never seen on a first gen Camaro and I have probably owned more than most. All 69 Camaros with Hurst shifted 4 speeds had the trans tunnel hole cut with a torch and the were a rough rectangle but this car had a little perfectly round non torch cut hole. If I had my car restored to the top level I would be pissed if that was the hole they did instead of the correct torch cut one. It might seem trivial to you but to a 69 Camaro guy that is a big mistake from a expert shop. If I recall it had Polyglas tires on it and I have never seen a 69 Camaro with Polyglas tires from the factory. The PCV hose in the pic appears to be straight with a sag instead of having a 90 degree bend like it should. The bolts in the pics posted holding the diff to the leaf springs appear to be two different length's. One doesn't appear to even come all the way thru the nut. This is not big stuff but it is wrong stuff. If I'm not judging this car and I saw this stuff I would imagine a judge would find more. Maybe none of this matters at Vettefest judging and I am way off but that was my worthless two cents.

[sYc]

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....2. The judging sheets for this car are now being reviewed by my Judging supervisor, as there are several issues that may have been considered incorrect that may in fact be correct.

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Bob, has your review team had time to review the judging sheets on this car? If so, has a decision been made, and what was it?

[Mr Yenko]

Hey Bob,
Is there any UPDATES to the scoring sheets to the ZL-1?
Just kind of curious as to what has un-folded.
Thanks,
The "MOF"

[Stuart Adams]

Stefano, clean out your PM box.

[sean70ss]

Tell you what Chuck Huber is one hell of a car restoration expert!!!

Man that is sweet.

Joe, What a great car. No matter what anyone says you got a ZL-1 Bro!!!

Sean

[68l30]

[sYc]

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Tell you what Chuck Huber is one hell of a car restoration expert!!!

Man that is sweet.

Joe, What a great car. No matter what anyone says you got a ZL-1 Bro!!!

Sean

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thank you for the interest in #36. i appreciate all of the attention it recieved at vette-fest and here on the site. your feedback has been most helpful. the items mentioned here, as well as several not mentioned, have been corrected. i took the car to VF to get exposure, and i am pleased with how much it received. i will attempt to post photos of the items corrected for those who are interrested or have commented on the issues with this car. these will be posted later today or this weekend.

joe


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I believe this post by Joe pretty much sums up the correctness, or lack of it, of the original restoration, and why it did not score well at VF.

IMO, Joe deserves a lot of credit for coming on here, admitting there were some issues with the car, saying that he was going to correct them, even posting pictures as he goes along. Hopefully everyone on here will be supportive of Joe as he makes the needed corrections to the car and next time out, the car “knocks them dead”.

[MosportGreen66]

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Tell you what Chuck Huber is one hell of a car restoration expert!!!

Man that is sweet.

Joe, What a great car. No matter what anyone says you got a ZL-1 Bro!!!

Sean

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thank you for the interest in #36. i appreciate all of the attention it recieved at vette-fest and here on the site. your feedback has been most helpful. the items mentioned here, as well as several not mentioned, have been corrected. i took the car to VF to get exposure, and i am pleased with how much it received. i will attempt to post photos of the items corrected for those who are interrested or have commented on the issues with this car. these will be posted later today or this weekend.

joe


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I believe this post by Joe pretty much sums up the correctness, or lack of it, of the original restoration, and why it did not score well at VF.

IMO, Joe deserves a lot of credit for coming on here, admitting there were some issues with the car, saying that he was going to correct them, even posting pictures as he goes along. Hopefully everyone on here will be supportive of Joe as he makes the needed corrections to the car and next time out, the car “knocks them dead”.

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Well said Tom. Takes some guts around here...

[ORIGLS6]

"IMO, Joe deserves a lot of credit for coming on here, admitting there were some issues with the car, saying that he was going to correct them, even posting pictures as he goes along. Hopefully everyone on here will be supportive of Joe as he makes the needed corrections to the car and next time out, the car “knocks them dead”. "

Excellent comment. This group is a tough crowd, but it also hosts some of the most informed people in the hobby. A car like this deserves to be dead-nuts correct and what better place to find out just how a car measures up the 'the standard'? Sounds like Joe is willing to take the heat to get it right. I wish him the best and look forward to seeing it again.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'd take a scraper to that 'GM' decal in the door jam for starters, I think that's a '68 thing....