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From what I understand...if it has LM23 on the fender tag...it's a mod top car. There are pictures of other mod top colors and top color choices if you click on the hyperlink to the registry.

This should be fairly easy to prove/disapprove as far as mod top option...just look at the fender tag!?
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The fender tag is in place on the car and I will look at that today.I have to go shopping for a new TV ours has some really weird colors on it now.That top on that green Superbee looks OK.I just could not picture it being on a black car!I remember the FLOWER days and I wish they were still around. LOL I remember all the FUN I had back then,those days were a blast.If I tried doing some of those things now I would be on AMERICAS MOST WANTED on Saturday nights!Here is the trim tag info!I couldnt't wait to see if it had that LM23 Cade!I tried to spce everything just as they are on the tag.

R11 V1H V8W END
X9 D2X X9 507 246729
E55 D21 LM23 P98 369903

I guess Mike Cessna was not kidding about that top,I am also going to go through the Chrysler Historical society to see what they may have on the car,has anyone on the site ever gone through them,I know most of you do not mess with old Dodges but maybe has a friend or someone they know has done that before.Just wondering what type of information to expect if anything.My soninlay pulled the top of the back seat out to see if there was a build sheet,we didnt see anything but we did not pull the bottom up to look there.Actually the vinyl in the back seat area is pretty hard and easily torn so I have to be careful with it.I can see a new seat cover for the rear in the future!Anyone know where they put build sheets in the Dodges.My other 69 Swinger has all the original interior also except for the front seat and I have not located a sheet on it,I have had someone tell me they put them in the headliners,anyone know this to be true or false,I hate to rip the headliner out for no reason.Although the headliner on the Black Swinger that I just bought is going to have to be replaced due to a RAT got a hold of it right above the passenger sunvisor and eat about a 6" hole in it there!I guess he just sat on the sunvisor and eat until he was full!

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Update: V1H is a paisley top. So this looks like a 340 Swinger with this top!!! Now I wonder about the paint color - were they normally restricted to F6 cars and this is a special-ordered one? Or were they available in other, matching, colors?
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Thanks for the correction about the LM23 number...I don't really understand decoding of Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouths!


There is a swinger on the site with the V1H code and it shows the green flowery top...so if V1H is on his tag...then it is one of these cars....right?

This was taken from the Modtop registry... [ QUOTE ]
Here is the information on the fender tag:

END
A46 M21 M25 R11 V1H V8X
F6 D2X X9 430 134700
E55 D21 LM23 P9B XXXXXX


END = end of codes
A46 = Moulding Package (includes upper door frame, drip rail, grille surround, wheel lip and deck lid lower mouldings); M21 = Drip Rail moldings (these go above your side windows, along the edge of the roofline); M25 = Body sill mouldings; R11 = AM radio; <u>V1H</u> = Green floral vinyl top (this color only available on Darts/Coronets); V8X = Transverse tape sport stripe;

F6 = Bright Green Metallic exterior paint; D2X = Deluxe Black vinyl bench seats; X9 = black Interior paint (console, instrument panel), and black carpet; 430 = April 30, 1969 build date; 134700 = order number

E55 = 340, 4bbl, 275 hp; D21 = A833 4-speed floor shift transmission ; LM = Dodge, Medium class ; 23 = 2 door hardtop; P = 340 engine; 9 = 1969 model year; B = built at Hamtramck, MI (a 'burb of Detroit); XXXXXX = sequence number. They start at 100000, and all the cars built on that line get a number.

Answers to the Mod Registry questions:


Engine that came with the car orginally? - 340
Engine in the car now - 340
Tranny that came orginally? - A833 4 SPD
Tranny in the car now? - A833 4 SPD
Original Exterior color? - F6 BRIGHT GREEN METALLIC
Exterior color now? - : F6 BRIGHT GREEN METALLIC
Interior color - BLACK BENCH D2X BLACK

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Now I wonder about the paint color - were they normally restricted to F6 cars and this is a special-ordered one? Or were they available in other, matching, colors?

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Congrats Bobby! Looks like your car is fairly rare!
Click HERE for another Swinger Mod Top!

I believe you can register your car at this site...and they may have a source for the vinyl top material HERE if you choose to put the top back on.

Most of all...have fun with the car...
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Hi, Bruce, the color info you've given are for Plymouths. Dodge often worked in competition with Plymouth, so it's not unusual for things to be analogous. The top color is different, so the cars will be trimmed differently.
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The fender tag is in place on the car and I will look at that today.I have to go shopping for a new TV ours has some really weird colors on it now.That top on that green Superbee looks OK.I just could not picture it being on a black car!I remember the FLOWER days and I wish they were still around. LOL I remember all the FUN I had back then,those days were a blast.If I tried doing some of those things now I would be on AMERICAS MOST WANTED on Saturday nights!Here is the trim tag info!I couldnt't wait to see if it had that LM23 Cade!I tried to spce everything just as they are on the tag.

R11 V1H V8W END
X9 D2X X9 507 246729
E55 D21 LM23 P98 369903

I guess Mike Cessna was not kidding about that top,I am also going to go through the Chrysler Historical society to see what they may have on the car,has anyone on the site ever gone through them,I know most of you do not mess with old Dodges but maybe has a friend or someone they know has done that before.Just wondering what type of information to expect if anything.My soninlay pulled the top of the back seat out to see if there was a build sheet,we didnt see anything but we did not pull the bottom up to look there.Actually the vinyl in the back seat area is pretty hard and easily torn so I have to be careful with it.I can see a new seat cover for the rear in the future!Anyone know where they put build sheets in the Dodges.My other 69 Swinger has all the original interior also except for the front seat and I have not located a sheet on it,I have had someone tell me they put them in the headliners,anyone know this to be true or false,I hate to rip the headliner out for no reason.Although the headliner on the Black Swinger that I just bought is going to have to be replaced due to a RAT got a hold of it right above the passenger sunvisor and eat about a 6" hole in it there!I guess he just sat on the sunvisor and eat until he was full!

Bobby Dodson

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X9 is the paint code for black.
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From what I understand...if it has LM23 on the fender tag...it's a mod top car.

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Your understanding is incorrect. That's the model number. L is probably Dart, and M is medium price class. I can only venture to guess that this is a Swinger. 23 is the bodystyle, which means hardtop

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There are pictures of other mod top colors and top color choices if you click on the hyperlink to the registry.


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But those color options were for Plymouths, not Dodges. Besides, colors were limited with the tops. In this car's case, the vinyl top is coded V1H, with the "H" stating the color. I don't know what H stands for.
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