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Old 11-07-2004, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S

Mr. Lillard, I seem to tend to think your discussions for this site lean toward the Historical aspects of the Camaro itsself; otherwise I dont think Clary would have started all this. I am more for the Historical view and preservation of the cars we have! So, with that in mind, I believe that the Shell's are of no value and I care not to see one of these shell's be retrofitted for the purpose of keeping a PaceCar, for example with this thread, alive. That is a touchy point though with all the GoodMark Items available as well, so this can be contardictory. So, I like Mark C.'s research that he has provided. Can we preserve a car as a time capsule, maybe..most likely no. This PaceCar deserves to be fixed and brought back..but as an overseas shell?? ...BTW< this thing really got the squish done to it...
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Old 11-07-2004, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S

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What is illegal under 18 USC 511 would be to take the VIN from that hulk and put it on one of those new repro bodies, no matter the reason. I am very familiar with this statute. Under 511 (a) (1) if you remove it for an illegal purpose you are committing the crime. Under 511 2 (B) "reasonably necessary for repair" does not include placing the VIN on another body. Under 511 (C) it doesn't work either: "a person who restores or replaces an identification number in accordance with applicable State law." I have yet to find any State laws that authorize VIN tag swapping to another car body. And, as we all learned in the Federal Courts class at law school, in the absence of a State statute directly on point, the Federal statute will be deemed the supreme authority on the subject. (The Supremacy Clause)
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: 1969 Z11 Camaro Convertible Pace Car Wrecked S

Charley,
SPEED Channel had a special on SEMA and interviewed a guy at the show representing the 69 Camaro convertible body company. He said there was a temporary injunction which had been placed and was already lifted, because they misunderstood that he was producing complete cars instead of just bodies. His position is that he produces sheet metal parts like GoodMark.

At least that's what I heard over the conversation in the room...I didn't catch his name or the name of his company.

Anyone else catch the show?
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:25 AM
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Yes,I saw that too.The quote seemed to be "without quarter panels ,it's not a car".That must be a simplification of what was discussed between Dynacorn and GM.Interesting segment in a program that was as informercial-like as anything I can think of.
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