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Old 08-03-2015, 05:37 PM
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give it up as you and jerry have been caught in a big screw up. there no one in his right mind can come up with a good reason for me to claim a color the car was not. you guys are just trying to defend the indefensible.
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Old 08-03-2015, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">give it up as you and jerry have been caught in a big screw up. there no one in his right mind can come up with a good reason for me to claim a color the car was not. you guys are just trying to defend the indefensible. </div></div>


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Old 08-03-2015, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

BTW... Norwood Chevrolet side inspectors used paint chips to accept bodies from Fisher Body. Paint in smaller batches at Fisher Body was also hand measured and tinted by eye to a match with a chip.
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Old 08-03-2015, 05:33 PM
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Correct on all points. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:01 PM
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I know that at the St. Louis Assembly plant the special order paint was prepared in small pressure pots and hand trucked to the paint line. It would be pure coincidence if the small batch matched any color chip. Does someone actually think that the <span style="text-decoration: underline">PRODUCTION</span> process included spraying test panels, running them through the oven, &amp; checking them against paint chips? No way - they mixed the paint according to the formula given (which may or may not have been correct)&amp; painted the job. I don't have a dog in the hunt, but people who I respect highly evidently do. So why not just conclude that the car got painted some color that we cannot identify for certain. It could have been intended to be EO, CS, SS - who knows for sure? The owner may have ordered EO and someone at the plant messed it up. Too bad that the owner/restorer didn't get consensus before the restoration was done.
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know that at the St. Louis Assembly plant the special order paint was prepared in small pressure pots and hand trucked to the paint line. It would be pure coincidence if the small batch matched any color chip. Does someone actually think that the <span style="text-decoration: underline">PRODUCTION</span> process included spraying test panels, running them through the oven, &amp; checking them against paint chips? </div></div>

Corvette or truck?

If the Corvette front clip was painted along with the body then it certainly was less critical. But in any instance where the front end was painted remotely (like trucks) they had to match the chip. In Flint the cabs were painted at one end of the facility and front end sheet metal at the other end (and on a separate floor). Buicks bodies were built on the north side of Flint and trucked to the south side of Flint (on open carriers) for final assembly. There had to be a common verifiable standard.

The production process absolutely includes matching to chips. When we installed the Behr turbine bell system in Flint the electrostatic charge in the body took all of the metal flake particles and aligned them in a uniform pattern, changing the final effect. We had to reinstall reciprocating traditional spray guns to spray metallic paints so that they would match the chip (which wasn't an inexpensive undertaking).

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Old 08-03-2015, 06:11 PM
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when the car arrived at grabiak chevy I would have known the difference between EO and silver. my wife worked there and was there when the car rolled off of the truck. there were people on the other website that said the dealer painted the car EO when it was delivered in silver. I hope people this stupid are not allowed vote in our elections.
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

The best of experts have been prone to errors. For instance, the so called L-89 Nova was inspected by a team of “experts” and though they never admitted that they may have been mislead, seems to be the case.

At times you have to weigh the facts, use common sense and see where that leads you. In this case, appears to have been a factory EO car.

Regardless, a very unique car/color.
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Old 08-03-2015, 06:58 PM
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the problem here is they can not afford to have some dumb hunky from a coal mining town in Pa be correct.
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Old 08-03-2015, 07:29 PM
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Hey Clem, Not that it matters, but from a former Pittsburgher (South Hills - Baldwin/Whitehall/South Park) guy, I believe you.

Do you happen to have any old cars now?
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