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Old 07-16-2014, 02:13 AM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Material_Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...why didn't the General use a flashier color with the debut of this car? The gold is beautiful but it just doesn't jump out like a red or yellow ETC. I also wonder why they didn't use a 327 rather than the 6 and an automatic transmission rather 3 on the tree? </div></div>
These are pilot builds - they build a mix of powertrains and options.

JohnZ has said this about the color:
All Chevrolet prototype vehicles were painted &quot;Gold&quot; as a quick means of identification.
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:34 AM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JohnZ has said this about the color:
All Chevrolet prototype vehicles were painted &quot;Gold&quot; as a quick means of identification. </div></div>

I assume he was talking about the 1967 camaro when he said this?...I know of other years chevrolet protoypes that were not gold.
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Old 07-14-2014, 03:57 PM
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I would've thought &quot;re-body&quot; if that roll cage mount plate was missing from the trunk floor. Maybe I'm in the minority but I really enjoy seeing small scars from the life of an old car. Old roll bar mounts, dented floor pan from a driveshaft explosion, trimmed 1/4 panel lips for big slicks, etc. Just like a human body, every scar has a story behind it.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:59 PM
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I read all 22 pages on Team Camaro and find it funny that some people are so stuck up that they look past the fact it is still left and that someone took the time to save the car for all to enjoy. I LOVE the welds left in the trunk. They are character marks from the cars past. When we restore a car we usually leave something behind from its past.
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:00 PM
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I love the car and the fact that it was saved also. If it were me and I had chosen to take on the task I think I would have tried to duplicate exactly how it left the factory and that would have meant no clues like the trunk floor. Having 250K into it is hard to believe unless the purchase price was a really high amount. Pretty cool piece of history no matter how it is restored.
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I remember when Charley predicted $100k in resto cost.

Be interesting to know how much was purchase and how much was resto.

And I have to agree on the trunk seams. Don't get that at all. Isn't the picture in race trim enough of a tribute to its history? Maybe they ran out of money and couldn't afford a new trunk pan. Perhaps the budget was very &quot;strict&quot; at $250k. I can hear it now: &quot;No, not another dime&quot;.
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:40 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I remember when Charley predicted $100k in resto cost.

Be interesting to know how much was purchase and how much was resto.

And I have to agree on the trunk seams. Don't get that at all. Isn't the picture in race trim enough of a tribute to its history? Maybe they ran out of money and couldn't afford a new trunk pan. Perhaps the budget was very &quot;strict&quot; at $250k. I can hear it now: &quot;No, not another dime&quot;. </div></div>

Good comments. The preference on the restoration and the detail was driven by the way the hobby seeks to expose fakes, rebody cars and clones.

The owner has no financial constraints when it came to the restoration. &quot;The car as restored pays tribute to its Bushmaster race car heritage&quot;, that is a direct quote from him because I too asked essentially the same kind of question.

He is planning a Major car show/auto museum tour with the car in the not too distant future just to let people see it.
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There is no right or wrong when it comes to restoring a car. It is a persons personal choice. Case in point ZL1 number 1. Porterfield chose to restore the car as a race car, not as it came from the factory. He stated he felt it better to leave it as raced because it was cut up. And at that point he had to choose which incarnation of the car he wanted it to look like. I have choose to restore my car to how the first owner had it with a scattersheild, traction bars, Hurst shfter, and aftermarket tach. I like and respect the history of it. The original engine is long gone and have chose to install a CE block. I have talked to many of the EXPERTS and got their input. I keep going back to this is my HOBBY, but investment potential and high dollar restorations kill the fun for the little guy like me. Just be glad it is still around
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:56 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no right or wrong when it comes to restoring a car. It is a persons personal choice. Case in point ZL1 number 1. Porterfield chose to restore the car as a race car, not as it came from the factory. He stated he felt it better to leave it as raced because it was cut up. </div></div>

And thank God he did restore it as a race car. Perfect tribute to all that were associated with the car back in the day and in my opinion worth considerably more (and I don't necessarily mean monetarily) as a race car instead of a stock as delivered ZL1.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no right or wrong when it comes to restoring a car. It is a persons personal choice. Case in point ZL1 number 1. Porterfield chose to restore the car as a race car, not as it came from the factory. He stated he felt it better to leave it as raced because it was cut up. </div></div>

And thank God he did restore it as a race car. Perfect tribute to all that were associated with the car back in the day and in my opinion worth considerably more (and I don't necessarily mean monetarily) as a race car instead of a stock as delivered ZL1. </div></div>

Yes, but then it got updated to modern NHRA cage and other stuff didn't it? Would have tried to put it back to 1969 race car specs, personally.
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