Motion Nova ???????

[DBelk]

Barry, did you write up the letters and have those people sign them "in agreement?" That would explain the in-depth terminology concerning options/ colors, etc. IMO. Not knocking you or the car as anyone would want to see a real Motion car surface of any kind, especially a Nova.

[leach]

The one from Mike Conliff he talked to the guy in depth from the paint shop and got everything that the guy knew about the car on the phone without putting words in his mouth and everything is on tape on the phone I have CD-R of the conversations and then he typed it up sent it to the painter and he kept it there and would not do anything with that one until I contacted him and talked with him the same way asking him what he knew about the car going back and back over what he knew and me taking notes and getting things down correct so that he would be ok with what I sent to him. Finally got what he liked and sent it to him and he called me one day said he took it to his bank got it notarized and he told me that he still had what Mike sent him there and he did not like the part where he had late 1968 in his and he crossed off the 8 in 1968 and put the 9 and Jan. there and he told me that he would send me that one notarized also. He crossed off one thing on mine where it said certain color vinyl top which he thought was a off white instead. The other letter that Ollie Jensen signed for me sent one to him after spending time on the phone with him and he got it in the mail and he called me and started remembering more about where they raced and other things then I sent him another one in the mail and he signed it then sent that to me. The 3rd owner did the same thing with me then sent it to me all done without me offering them anything in return.

[Salvatore]

I think Joel R. is the key to all of this.

[luzl78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think Joel R. is the key to all of this. </div></div> I don't know if Joel was doing any wrenching on the cars late 68-early-69 or was just hustling up work as the salesman but if he was involved inside the shop I'm sure he would of remembered the color combination of this nova and especially if it was the first 68, even if he does not have any vin documentation or work orders. I'm hoping it is real. I love the history and the search for knowledge of the rare cars.

[SuperNovaSS]

I imagine Joel is going to want to see the other letters first. Good detective work. If I was a buyer I would rather see the buyer's statements in their own words but can understand the way you are going about it.


Jason

[DBelk]

This is a quote from MikeC in a previous post on this thread. I was told this more than once as well over the years. Unfortunately it seems this car will never have Joel's blessing apparently, unless something drastically happens or appears.

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Ok here's my 2 cents worth, I did speak to Joel, he made it clear he had no interest in discussing the car or the person that owned it prior to me in any way shape or form. He also made it clear that everything he had heard prior to me calling on the car and what he had for records NO WAY tied the car to Motion performance. he further stated that he would NEVER be involved with anything concerning this car... BTW that information was given to Barry prior to him agreeing to purchase the car from me.

[luzl78]

I think Dan really made Joel not like him.

[leach]

When I spent time on the phone with Joel right after I bought the car he explained to me that he would not talk about this car as long as Dan was around because of all he went thru with Dan and how he had to get police involved because of what was going on. He never said that he did not know this car and I ran into other people who would not talk to me because of possibly what Dan said to them they would hang up on me because of that. So I just let them be and did not contact them again. Aso couple people that worked at Motion back then said they know certain things about the car but could not get involved because of their dealings with Joel now.

[bergy]

Just for what it's worth regarding the notarized statements... the way that I do it is to take copious notes when talking to the individual. Then send them a letter with self addressed return envelope &amp; $$ for notary fee. On the correspondence I say &quot;this correspondence is to memorialize our conversation of (date). Please feel free to alter/change/add anything that you feel will make the document more accurate. Please do not include anything that you don't clearly recall about the car. When you have completed the changes(initial and date each one)and are prepared to attest to its accuracy - please sign the document in the presence of a notary and return it to me in the enclosed envelope&quot;.

I feel that it's kind of an unreasonable expectation to finish a conversation with a former owner (a conversation that could have been hours long), and then ask the individual to write everything discussed down. So, I do the work for them and then ask the former owner to review it, correct it, and sign it. The document always makes it clear that it was typed up by ME to memorialize our conversation. All hand written notes and attesting signature (of course) are from the former owner.

If the document(s) make it clear up front how they came into being - it doesn't raise more questions then it answers. Hopefully this helps.

Also, for what it's worth to everyone, it's a good idea to have statements like this in the car's file from every old owner. Some of these former owners are getting up there in years (like me). It's good to have their statements live on - for the car's sake.

[njsteve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just for what it's worth regarding the notarized statements... the way that I do it is to take copious notes when talking to the individual. Then send them a letter with self addressed return envelope &amp; $$ for notary fee. On the correspondence I say &quot;this correspondence is to memorialize our conversation of (date). Please feel free to alter/change/add anything that you feel will make the document more accurate. Please do not include anything that you don't clearly recall about the car. When you have completed the changes(initial and date each one)and are prepared to attest to its accuracy - please sign the document in the presence of a notary and return it to me in the enclosed envelope&quot;.

I feel that it's kind of an unreasonable expectation to finish a conversation with a former owner (a conversation that could have been hours long), and then ask the individual to write everything discussed down. So, I do the work for them and then ask the former owner to review it, correct it, and sign it. The document always makes it clear that it was typed up by ME to memorialize our conversation. All hand written notes and attesting signature (of course) are from the former owner.

If the document(s) make it clear up front how they came into being - it doesn't raise more questions then it answers. Hopefully this helps.

Also, for what it's worth to everyone, it's a good idea to have statements like this in the car's file from every old owner. Some of these former owners are getting up there in years (like me). It's good to have their statements live on - for the car's sake.

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That is similar to what I have done in the past. You send them a typed up synopsis of the interview and ask them to review it, and/or revise it if necessary and then get it notarized and mailed back.

I was extremely lucky with the 73 SD recently, when the original owner, on his own, hand typed a 16-page, single spaced novella of his entire experience with car and then had it notarized and fedexed to me. That was a one-in-a-million situation because he was sooooo overjoyed to know the car was still around and wanted to remain a part of its history.