stolen camaro found out of state

[70 copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: combackcamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I am on my way back to Georgia with my car. I went with $10,000 cash in hand to do what others seem to be moraly right. But when I saw my car I realized what bad advise some had shared with this man, because now he has made the biggest mistake of his life. Thats all I can say for now.. Wil post all t<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"></div></div>hose picture when the feds are done. </div></div>

You just knew the guy with the car was going to get too self assured by all the people on forums telling him what he &quot;should do&quot; while he continued to pour money into what was becoming obvious--that he was in possession of stolen property.

He must have really pissed you off ..looking forward to the details.

[njsteve]

That's pretty much what I warned the &quot;advisers&quot; against doing, on the other site, who were saying they would pull everything off. But, hey, free legal advice is worth every penny you paid for it!

I essentially said that if anything is removed, now that is known to have been stolen, the &quot;remover&quot; could get charged with all sorts of charges in several states, such as accessory after the fact, possession of stolen property, additional theft charges, etc. And these would be felony grand theft charges since the value is over $1,000. And top it off with the fact that the car traveled across state lines and you have the federal offense of Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property.

Sounds like the present &quot;owner&quot; did something not-so-wise and the locals and possibly the feds, dog-piled on him. Very sad outcome for that guy.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: combackcamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I am on my way back to Georgia with my car. I went with $10,000 cash in hand to do what others seem to be moraly right. But when I saw my car I realized what bad advise some had shared with this man, because now he has made the biggest mistake of his life. Thats all I can say for now.. Wil post all t<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"></div></div>hose picture when the feds are done. </div></div>

He must have stripped everything off the car.

[JimSC]

wow...

[69LM1]

Yea... Lets all celebrate a 16yo kid is now probably forever burned on muscle cars. It might be Illegal but in what moral world would anyone be happy that the kid lost thousands of dollars on parts, all for those parts to be given to the original owner who did not buy them?

And shame on the OP here, the feds and any local LEO's and DA if they go after this kid for taking off the parts that he bought (as long as they did not damage the car in any way).

Based on what the OP said, I question that statement that he went there with 10k to give the father/son. Why not tell them up front?

Here he says he does not want to deal with the current person:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: combackcamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="text-decoration: underline">Detective ask me to call man whom has my car, see if we can work out some kinda agreement.</span> That he had invested alot of $ into restoring. When he purchased no transmission, gas tank, fuel lines, steering wheel, drive shaft, gear shift, dashboard, rear end,&amp; list goes on. Hum sounds me like the theift made some big bucks! <span style="font-weight: bold">I told detective I just want my car back</span>.</div></div>

Here he says that it is too bad for the kid, he gets all of the investments into the car, even those he KNOWS were not on the car when stolen and bought by the dad/kid:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: combackcamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> sadly for him thank god for me is any investments put into car he the purchaser has to go back after the seller.</div></div>

Rich

[Lynn]

I don't know that anyone is celebrating.

Still would like to hear ALL of the facts.

Do I feel bad for the 16 year old? Absolutely (at least as far as I know).

Do I feel bad for his dad? I have no idea, because I don't know what he knew and when he knew it.

When I was 20, I had a chance to buy a gorgeous citrus green 70Z. Engine and tranny were missing. Rest of the car was cherry. Car was 1 year old. $500. Black and white houndstooth interior. Guy couldn't wait to give me the keys and have me sign a bill of sale. He said I could easily get it titled with that bill of sale. Hmmm. Even at age 20, I knew something was wrong. Whole thing was too good to be true. I passed. Car turned out to be stolen.

I am NOT saying the dad knew or should have known. I don't think we have all the facts.

Also, if the dad did buy this car on the up and up, and did get paperwork from the seller, he has recourse.

[69LM1]

Granted Lynn. I'd also like to know more about what the Dad knew and when.

However, that does not justify the moral position of the OP taking parts he knows he did not purchase and basically saying too bad for the dad/kid.

If he was going to offer the dad/son 10k, why didn't he start off talking to them as the officer suggested? By the OP's own words the officer who inspected the car stated that the father/son invested thousands of dollars into the car (again if the Dad knew it was stolen that's a different story) and suggested that the OP and Dad try and work something fair out.

That's what should have morally happened IMO.

Instead the OP stated that he had no interest in working anything out, he just wanted the car back as is, based on the law. He also stated he was getting the upgrades on the car and the father/son would have to go after the seller.

Now all of a sudden he was going to offer 10k to the father and son? Sorry, I don't think I believe him based on what he said here.

I'd also like to know more on how the father/son bought the car............ Maybe that guy will start a thread over at Camaros.org or something [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Rich

[Lynn]

I don't know that I disagree with anything you have stated Rich.

I would LIKE to know all the facts. I don't KNOW that we ever will.

[twertsy]

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif[/img] on the OP taking 10k to compensate the kid and his dad. I believe he said he couldn't afford &quot;anything&quot; earlier in this or a thread on another site. Hate the thieves for putting everyone in the positions they're in. In terms of us, I don't think we know enough to judge anyone. That kid sure looked happy in the earlier pic and we all feel for him I'm sure.

[Smokey]

Its sad seeing everyone on this page assume this and that. I thought this group was bigger than that. Just sayin is all. I feel bad for everyone involved in some shape and way of this story.