True Survivor

[Woj]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Survivor cars show how &quot;imperfect&quot; the build process really was! </div></div>

Bruce,

That is certainly the truth. The quality of the initial builds compared to today's cars pales in comparison. The survivors I have would certainly have gone back to the dealer for &quot;tidying up&quot;. I remember my brother getting a brand new '75 Caprice. I went with him to the dealer to pick it up. A month later he took it back to the dealer with 52 discepancies. Most of which were never corrected. A nice car, but poor by today's standards.

This Camaro is still very cool.

Phil Woj

[Woj]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: talwell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have seen quite a few 69 Camaro survivor cars - never one this clean. This is a museum piece.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-Camaro...=item2a2c7021f0 </div></div>

It is no wonder the 69 camaro is still so popular today. The car looks great in just about any color, wheel/tire and engine combo. GM got this one right. Even for a 307 car, this one is a beauty (no bias here LOL).

Phil Woj

[68l30]

That one sexy looking Camaro! Just so clean and pure looking in it's most basic form. No balls or brawn, but, I'd take it over a bitched up big block all day long. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]


BIG

[flyingn]

weird optioned too. Wire covers, buckets with column shift..

[69SSZL1]

Brake pedal is worn smooth on right side. 14,0000 miles? maybe 114,000 miles. Ad says it has been repainted-not a Survivor or an original.

[442w30]

I saw one exactly like that - same blue with two-tone white - in Nashville around 1994. It was an SS 350!

[1969l78]

How can you call a car a survivor that's had paint work or repaint?

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1969l78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How can you call a car a survivor that's had paint work or repaint? </div></div>

Here's part of the Bloomington Survivor definition below.
Yes it's w/ regard to Corvettes but Dave Burroughs and Bloomington is where the whole Survivor thing began so pretty much the authority on the subject regardless of vehicle.

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~ Pete

SURVIVOR®
As the name implies, Corvettes that have never been restored have ‘survived’ intentional or unintentional loss of original markings, paint or components. Corvettes remaining over 50% unrestored or unmodified may qualify for this award if they remain in a condition that would serve well as an historic guide for others who want to restore a Corvette of that vintage and type. This award is designed to recognize those Corvettes that are “Worn in, but not worn out.” A Survivor Corvette is significantly unrestored, unrepaired, or unmodified and useful as a historic reference. It is a Corvette who in the best interest of research should not be restored or improved. Again, as with Certification, the cars are judged against a factory standard and not against one another. The technical portion of the judging is eliminated and instead the Corvettes must complete a 40 mile road test under their own power in an established time frame. Survivors must pass at least 3 of the 4 categories of exterior, interior, engine/compartment and chassis...

[whitetop]

I remember so many original paint, rust free, original owner muscle cars in 1975-1977 era-when i first really started to get into cars.

My 7th grade English teacher owned a gold, black interior 69 307 or 327 ?? approx 1977 that was just mint. She was the original owner. Original paint, No rust. 100% stock She really took care of it. Funny, back then I thought the car was old when it was just 7-8 years old but when you are 14-15 years old that is an old car.

She sold it a year or so later to a HS kid who totaled it couple month later.

Another older classmate bought a original owner, original paint 1970 Olds 442 convertible with the twin scooped hood approx 1978. The car was trashed within a year and sold and later wrecked as well.

Both of these cars were bought by guys who were not really into cars but just used them as a &quot;tool&quot; to get girls/look cool.

So many of these cars original cars were trashed by thoughtless owners...what a shame looking back.

[twertsy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I remember so many original paint, rust free, original owner muscle cars in 1975-1977 era-when i first really started to get into cars.

My 7th grade English teacher owned a gold, black interior 69 307 or 327 ?? approx 1977 that was just mint. She was the original owner. Original paint, No rust. 100% stock She really took care of it. Funny, back then I thought the car was old when it was just 7-8 years old but when you are 14-15 years old that is an old car.

She sold it a year or so later to a HS kid who totaled it couple month later.

Another older classmate bought a original owner, original paint 1970 Olds 442 convertible with the twin scooped hood approx 1978. The car was trashed within a year and sold and later wrecked as well.

Both of these cars were bought by guys who were not really into cars but just used them as a &quot;tool&quot; to get girls/look cool.

So many of these cars original cars were trashed by thoughtless owners...what a shame looking back.


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We had a guy in the next town, late '70s/early 80's, who totaled at least 5 super birds/daytonas. He also hacked a white one up and made it into a convertible.