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OK - OK, I'll never mention a public registry again.......except this one time. The first Cobra Registry was completed in 1973 and only 248 of the 998 Cobras produced were accounted for (today 958 accounted for). The GT350 Registry ('65 - '66 only) followed in 1976 and only 486 of the 2941 cars produced were accounted for (today 2,450 accounted for). You can see that it was a pretty small beginning. The sixth registry, in 1997, accounted for 9,956 of the 14,913 cars produced (Cobras and '65 - '70 Mustangs). Yes, the situation and available documents are much different for Yenkos, but Tom and the rest of you have assembled a lot of data that would provide a fantastic basis for a public registry. I understand the need for legal insulation though.
Anyway - I'll never mention a public registry again! |
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For comparison - Vince Emme started tracking the Yenko cars in the early '80's. Of the 201 '69 Yenko Camaros, I believe he has confirmed ~130 of them.
I started tracking the Yenko Deuce Novas in 1996, when ~30 of the 175 were known. Now, some 15 years later we are up to 87 cars known. So, registry efforts do start off small, but when there is a lack of supporting documentation it makes it very hard - and extremely risky to actually put something down on paper.
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Marlin 70 Yenko Nova-350/360, 4speed M21, 4.10 Posi (Daddy's Ride) 69 SS Nova-396/375hp, 4speed M20, 3.55 Posi (Benjamin's Ride) 67 RS Camaro-327/250hp, 2speed Glide, & 3.08 Open (Danny's Ride) |
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What's the point of a registry if its information is not available to the public or through a subscription? Who benefits?
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<span style="font-weight: bold">John Chevelle and Tri Five Parts 56 210 66 Chevelle </span> |
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Why do we need a registry? If Jerry says it's real, it's real. Isn't that how the story goes? Started as Z28s, then COPO Camaros and soon to be Fords and Mopars. The definitive authority.
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1969 Hugger Orange RS COPO (Sold) 1969 Garnet Red Z28 1969 Super Bee (Sold) 1965 Pontiac Lemans |
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it is hard for me to understand what I would get access to if I paid membership dues. I also would be concerned on interpretations of what is good.
For example, calling the below car 'great' just gets to me. So how would the registry describe the same car? great? or? depends on who you ask, likely. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...243&page=5 |
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"Great" is certainly subjective.
So honestly and truthfully advertising a car for sale "gets to you" How about: Top Gun Award at the Chevey Vette Fest Three Gold spinners Concours winner 9XX points out of 1,000 at a national judging venue etc...etc While I still don't agree with the method used to restore this Yenko, I still consider it a great one. You don't think that having this info available on a public Forum which specializes in these cars is valuable? |
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I have seen that Yenko and it is clearly a great car. The owner didn't intend nor did he know about the resto method until discovered years later by Stefano for a client. It's also great Stefano went the extra miles for his prospective buyer to discover the hidden resto mishap and its also very great that the owner never tried to hide the history and has been totally open about it during the entire sales process. It would be really great if everyone in this business conducted themselves like Stefano and the owner have regarding the sale of this great car. Unfortunately in the great majority of case people take the low road in situations like this.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Great" is certainly subjective.
So honestly and truthfully advertising a car for sale "gets to you" How about: Top Gun Award at the Chevey Vette Fest Three Gold spinners Concours winner 9XX points out of 1,000 at a national judging venue etc...etc While I still don't agree with the method used to restore this Yenko, I still consider it a great one. You don't think that having this info available on a public Forum which specializes in these cars is valuable? </div></div> Stephano, When the clary's refer to the car that started this thread, 'as a GREAT car', that holds some weight, that I would tend to believe is good information to see in writing. When you have a car forsale that is a rebody, and call it GREAT in the same thread as the survivor, it just begs for further discussion. Who runs the registry and feedback to prospective inquireries makes me wonder how unbiased the feedback will be. You are no doubt a very significant part of yenko.net. I regard you (unless proven otherwise) part of the team that runs the supercar registry. What gets to me is the reference to that blue car as great, especially on this thread in the context of a survivor yenko. You should leave that car alone and walk away from it in my opinion, or start calling it a 'good car' considering what happened to it during restoration. Taking 3 yenko cars to auction can be good enough for many [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is hard for me to understand what I would get access to if I paid membership dues. I also would be concerned on interpretations of what is good.
For example, calling the below car 'great' just gets to me. So how would the registry describe the same car? great? or? depends on who you ask, likely. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...243&page=5 </div></div> This must be the twilight zone. You brought the Blue Yenko into this thread not me. This thread was about the Hugger Orange Yenko going to auction. How about we get back to that "Great" Yenko. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is hard for me to understand what I would get access to if I paid membership dues. I also would be concerned on interpretations of what is good.
For example, calling the below car 'great' just gets to me. So how would the registry describe the same car? great? or? depends on who you ask, likely. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...243&page=5 </div></div> This must be the twilight zone. You brought the Blue Yenko into this thread not me. </div></div> Stephano, maybe I am the only one in the twilight zone. But you got my attention when you posted below on THIS thread. You have only one yenko listed for sale on your website, so I assumed it was one of the 4 you brought into this thread. here is what you wrote: We have 4 great Yenko Cars going to auction. However Judi's Yenko is the only Yenko Camaro in the auction. BTW......This is a good time to thank Tom, Rob, Marlin as well as many others who have helped document and track these special cars over the years. |
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