E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[bergy]

Tom - Your Hemmings ad lists item #3 - "restoration of vin's". Have I interrupted your "discovery"? I can't be certain of this, but 2+2 does still equal 4. Were you intending to try to "restore my vin" on your "discovery"? Who could be paying you to do this? It's out in the open now - you might as well be forthcoming. A huge percentage of my car is #616414. Using inside contacts with the police to accomplish a plan like this (without disclosing the details of my car) would certainly be unethical and possibly illegal.

[COPO140]

Bergy,
A huge percentage of your car is 616414? Are you serious? You have yet to prove that and have not presented anything factual to support that. If you have additional info, lay it out there. I simply can not believe where this thread has gone. I personally see nothing wrong with anything vfitom is doing. The burden of proof is on bergy. Maybe vfitom is waiting to see how bergy presents this car before he speaks. I do not know either bergy of vfitom so I have no vested interest either way. I do know that over the years there have been a lot of fakes and rebodies passed of as real so I would say that bergy has alot of footwork to do and facts to present before a statement like "a large percentage of my car is 616414". Its obvious that people want to give bergy the benefit of the doubt and he may be a nice guy but cmon, this is rediculous!If we are judging the car on facts alone at this point, it does not look good for bergy imo.

[bergy]

COPO140 - I'm just looking for the truth. Talking to old owners and getting their statements. So far it's pretty encouraging. You have posted the same thing about 9 times so far on this thread - we hear you. I'll just keep going with my investigation.

[COPO140]

I just have a few questions since you want to get a little smart with me.1. Why do you make the statement "a large percentage of my car is 616414"? 2. Has the vin been off and re-attached to the car? And 3. Does the car retain any part of it's original firewall? Please dont skirt the issue when you make a statement like "a large percentage of my car is 616414, that's how cars begin to become real. What facts do you have?

[Dave Rifkin]

You guys kill me; the majority of people who have posted on this thread act as if Bergy owes you some sort of justification regarding <span style="font-weight: bold">HIS</span> car. As far as I can see he has been more than patient with many of you considering the undertones of what some have said.

Bergy keep digging for the truth, I surely hope this car turns out to be what you suspect it is. As you have made clear to everyone here; you buy these cars for the enjoyment and part of your fun is doing the research. I would ignore the naysayers; as far as I can tell you don't owe anyone a thing.

I'm sure I will get flamed for this post but, I am getting tired of seeing you get beat up over something that is no ones' business but your own.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys kill me; the majority of people who have posted on this thread act as if Bergy owes you some sort of justification regarding <span style="font-weight: bold">HIS</span> car. As far as I can see he has been more than patient with many of you considering the undertones of what some have said.

Bergy keep digging for the truth, I surely hope this car turns out to be what you suspect it is. As you have made clear to everyone here; you buy these cars for the enjoyment and part of your fun is doing the research. I would ignore the naysayers; as far as I can tell you don't owe anyone a thing.

I'm sure I will get flamed for this post but, I am getting tired of seeing you get beat up over something that is no ones' business but your own.

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I don't think anyone is out to get Bergy personally here, but he has made statements based on circumstantial observations, other people's recollections, etc... that many are simply asking to be backed up. Its not complicated, and in the end the car will be the final spokesperson. We've seen many a car like this one turn out with some fantastic tale that somehow justifies some type of integrity, next thing ya know tags and stampings appear.

So, I think Bergy wants the car to retain as much integrity as possible, the best way to do that is by doing the three things right: 1. discussing the car in the open, before the story is fully know - can be a bit painful as we all go through the maze, but it will be better in the long run. 2. finding out the word of mouth story, even the inconsistencies. 3. eventually will take the car apart and photo it.

[bergy]

not trying to be smart copo140 - you'd have to read my posts to get the answers to your concerns. You know the answer to the vin stamp on the top of the cowl. Just let me continue my research and get the sworn statements explaining how this car got to its current state. The DMV called yesterday and said they had more transactions for me.

[COPO140]

Can you please answer the question about the dash vin being off and re-attached to the car? Has it been? Also, can you please answer the question regarding your statement of &quot;a large percentage of your car being 616414&quot;? I would really like to hear what you have to say. Oh and btw bergy, your attempt to discredit vfitom is nothing short of pathetic. If it were me, I would be very insulted about your statements.
Also to x baldwin motion, what is your point by posting that link? Are you and bergy buddies? The ad looks very helpful to me.

[al8apex]

ok, that makes TWO of them now ... where do these people come from and who pissed on their corn flakes?

[vfitom]

WOW man, chill! You are getting way out there now! The only thing &quot;out in the open&quot; is you assuming things! I have no idea what you are talking about when you mention someone could be paying me. I have no personal interest in this car other than the true history of it because I looked at it... It is interesting. And it is a retag any way you look at it. Period. Even if the firewall was replaced. But, I am willing to bet that the firewall was never replaced. AND, FYI, Restoration of a VIN is the use of special acid to bring up stamped confidential VINs that were ground off. That's what is meant by that, and not actual VIN plates. Actually it should read restoration of a confidential VIN, my error in the ad. We did restorations on engine stamps after deckings. It also applies to applying for and obtaining state replacement VINs. Comeon man, stop attacking me and my prior job, and go out and pull the fender &amp; heater box and check for welds and let us all know.....