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Old 11-21-2009, 09:54 PM
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How can you possibly THINK that if there were Canadian built /6 Chargers shipped that they would not appear in the same production book that shows MANY others with Canadian shipped figures? Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp.


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I have many of the same items from Chrysler that Galen does. They only list US-spec stuff. This is par for the course, as I have mentioned before. Canadian and export numbers were kept differently so they are not in the same documentation.

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What started all of this was your questioning the figures I posted as accurate.


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No, what started it is that you posted production figures from Galen's book, and I added that those numbers were for US-spec cars and they should not be inferred as being complete.

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Just EXACTLY what is it that you have posted that indicates there were any more than the 467 cars shipped?

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Um, because my 2001 edition of the same book, which I posted above, shows the numbers to be US-spec cars only? And since I am interested in production figures, I try to be on the up-and-up with them?

Here's another way to think of it:

69,142 "base" Chargers were built in TOTAL
462 were built with the /6 for the US
65,068 were built with the V-8 for the US
For US-spec cars, there were 65,530 "base" Chargers built.

But what is this? We have Galen's Chrysler docs saying that 69,142 "base" Chargers were built in total - why the difference?

Because 4,074 "base" Chargers were sold to the Canadian and export markets. Those cars could have anything from the /6 all the way up to the 383-4.
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Old 11-22-2009, 01:07 AM
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How can you possibly THINK that if there were Canadian built /6 Chargers shipped that they would not appear in the same production book that shows MANY others with Canadian shipped figures? Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp.


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I have many of the same items from Chrysler that Galen does. They only list US-spec stuff. This is par for the course, as I have mentioned before. Canadian and export numbers were kept differently so they are not in the same documentation.

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What started all of this was your questioning the figures I posted as accurate.


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No, what started it is that you posted production figures from Galen's book, and I added that those numbers were for US-spec cars and they should not be inferred as being complete.

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Just EXACTLY what is it that you have posted that indicates there were any more than the 467 cars shipped?

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Um, because my 2001 edition of the same book, which I posted above, shows the numbers to be US-spec cars only? And since I am interested in production figures, I try to be on the up-and-up with them?

Here's another way to think of it:

69,142 "base" Chargers were built in TOTAL
462 were built with the /6 for the US
65,068 were built with the V-8 for the US
For US-spec cars, there were 65,530 "base" Chargers built.

But what is this? We have Galen's Chrysler docs saying that 69,142 "base" Chargers were built in total - why the difference?

Finally something that makes sense, however you STILL offer no source for any other cars shipped that you are indicating SHOULD be considered.

Another thing to keep in mind, MANY cars that were EXPORT sales were never exported as they were sold through the military bases for scheduled delivery in the US when overseas assigned GIs returned home to the states. So my GUESS is that a lot of the "number discrepencies" would be accounted for as such that SHOULD be accounted for as US spec'ed. They would actually be US spec'ed cars even though they were considered export cars.

If You think that Chrysler's production numbers where do you think GG got his Canadian numbers that he lists? He only indicates the production figures as be provided by Chrysler Corp.

You didn't answer my question about the last sentence of #3 of your KEY.
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:44 AM
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Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp.

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Just out of curiousity, when and where did Galen come up with these records? I'm assuming it was before they all got thrown in the dumpster in the late 70's-early 80's?
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:36 AM
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:49 AM
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Remember, GGs figures came straight from Chrysler Corp.

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Just out of curiousity, when and where did Galen come up with these records? I'm assuming it was before they all got thrown in the dumpster in the late 70's-early 80's?

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Galen got "into" all of this in the early 80s. The IBM cards for the 1968 and newer cars have been destroyed with conflicting stories as to it being a fire or a flooded basement that ended their life.

The production figures were something that was kept seperately and MAY still exist. However Chrysler will no longer 'talk" to just anyone about them, you have to have an "in."

The V.I.N. break down for a 1969 /6 Charger are as follows:
X=Charger
P=Premium price class
29=2 door hardtop
B=225 6 cylinder engine
9=1969 model year
?=assembly plant ? is because they were built in
differnet plants
the last 6 digits are the sequence number
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