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Old 05-04-2009, 11:44 PM
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Didn't a guy from Florida that was selling fake documents come on the board a while back, defending what he does? Seems like his name was Jim.
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:14 AM
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People who try hard enough can fake any documentation, but notarized original owner statements with current phone number of original owner is pretty tough to fake. If you can't talk to the original owner (or next of kin) - it's a big problem. Also, Canadian documentation is pretty solid (thanks GM Canada).
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:20 AM
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In my notes I have a Florida guy's name recorded who deals in cooked documents and goes by the name of James 'Jimmy' Dipersia...could be the same guy?.


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Didn't a guy from Florida that was selling fake documents come on the board a while back, defending what he does? Seems like his name was Jim.

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This is the post I was thinking about.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...0/fpart/1/vc/1
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That thread has "The Best of Joey" now banned on all wind up HEMI-powered radios !!
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:32 AM
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My point is owner history will be faked next, or maybe has already. Fake docs, fake paper trail, leads to 2 or 3 accomplices with phone calls, photos, and stories and more fake ownership papers. Could this happen?

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Exactly!!

In the near future the original and subsequent owners of these cars will no longer be around to speak with. The forging of fake owner history is/has already occuring including fake signed and notarized affidavits from previous owners. These are easier to reproduce than build sheets, tank stickers, broadcast sheets, etc. A video interview with the original owner showing his/her ID along with the documents and present owner is the best provenance I can think of.

Stefano's right, it's the total package that counts.

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That is exactly what I am doing this year when my car is going for the Bloomington Gold certification. I have invited three of the previous owners to attend. Lets face it we're not getting any younger and eventually the original owners will all be gone so if anyone has the abililty to do this then they should. Also as Joe mentioned I believe there is a way to tell the appoximate age of a document so that it an option as well. As stated before paperwork is just one piece of the total package. Buyer beware.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:18 AM
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The next thing you know someone will get some old man who can't hear or speak anymore and might not remember much and just have him say he bought the car new. Like anything else, you just have to be an eductated consumer and do the homework.
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I have not posted here in a few years but had to chime in here. Unfortunately you guys are behind the 8 ball here and playing catch up. Owner history/provinence have been faked for years. I know several shop owners that have been offered LARGE sums of money to falsify a cars options/owner history and restoration photos. This has been going on since the mid 80's. And I'm sure it has gone on in the past with Dusenburgs and such.

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