1964 GTO Documentation

[ds1]

I have a GTO that my father and I bought ten years ago. He just retired and started restoring it. We know the original owner. He does not have any paperwork on the car. I also know 3 previous owners of the car and have been told that there were at least two more owners we have not found or spoke with. The last PA inspection was 1976. With all that said I never worried about the car being a real GTO, but when my father sent for the PHS documentation he received a letter back saying that 1964 GTO's built in Baltimore and Kansas can not be documented because they were under the direction of Chevrolet. I have read some crazy things on here about cars not being recognized even with TONS of documentation. We have no plans to sell the car and I know it is the real deal. Just want to hear any thoughts on this. Thanks

[marxjunk]

PHS..its 60 bux, they will decode and send a copy of the billing invoice..no doubts no guesses..uses GM paper work


Pontiac Historical Services

http://www.phs-online.com/

[ds1]

We did that. They have nothing on 1964 cars built in Baltimore and Kansas because they were under Chevrolet direction. Our car is a Baltimore car. We have a 64 GTO convertible that we did get the PHS documentation. There documentation is not 100 percent correct. They said our car had options we know it did not have. We have 12 GTO's and know them well. I just wanted to hear thoughts on a car we know is real but can not document. I have read crazy things on this site about cars that there is no doubt are the real thing but the owners are told they are not actual cars.

[ds1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marxjunk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PHS..its 60 bux, they will decode and send a copy of the billing invoice..no doubts no guesses..uses GM paper work


Pontiac Historical Services
This should be clear for those who did not know
http://www.phs-online.com/ </div></div>

[Tracker1]

NEVER KNEW THIS - THANKS FOR POSTING. TRULY WEIRD.




Pontiac Historical Services
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[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> but when my father sent for the PHS documentation he received a letter back saying that 1964 GTO's built in Baltimore and Kansas can not be documented because they were under the direction of Chevrolet. </div></div>

Huh-wha? Please post that letter.

[ds1]

Pontiac Historical Services can not document 1964 GTO's only built in Baltimore and Kansas. All other cars and years can be documented. We have PHS documentation on our 64 GTO convertible, 65 iris mist convertible, 67 GTO Baltimore built convertible and a 67 plum mist GTO convertible we sold to the Volo Museum. Just putting out there that not all cars can be documented.

[Tommy Nolen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pontiac Historical Services can not document 1964 GTO's only built in Baltimore and Kansas. <span style="font-weight: bold">All other cars and years can be documented</span>. We have PHS documentation on our 64 GTO convertible, 65 iris mist convertible, 67 GTO Baltimore built convertible and a 67 plum mist GTO convertible we sold to the Volo Museum. Just putting out there that not all cars can be documented. </div></div>

PHS can not document earlier than 1961 and some of the very early '61's can not be documented. My '61 Ventura is a late Nov car and they were able to document it

[ds1]

We know the original owner of the car. The documentation would have been good but there is NO plans to sell the car. This is the first muscle car my dad had ever saw when he was 14 in 1964. It is very rough but we have fixed the worst cars people would not even use for parts cars.

[ds1]

Spoke with my father today and his 64 GTO convertible was built in Baltimore and PHS documented it but added that they could not tell us where it was shipped to. So he has his vins, build dates, and his paperwork for the convertible ready to get in touch with PHS and try to get to the bottom of why they can not or will not give us the records on the car.