Musclecar prices and the possible recession

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by the427king

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24...ama/index.html

H1n1 declared a pandemic in April 2009 ,yet declared an emergency 5 months later only after millions already infected,20000 hospitalized and over 1000 dead, and that was just counting the United States. Heres the best part. From the start of the pandemic to its finish, the stock market in 2009 INCREASED by 40%.................No bad media means no hysteria

CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

That is a very low mortality rate. And it was only 5 months after the pandemic started that a vaccine was found,

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html

[Lee Stewart]

The latest stats are:

119,176 cases

4,295 deaths

[tom406]

I would hope everyone interested in this virus situation do your own homework. In Seattle, life is currently quite different. To give you an idea of how much less people are going out right now, my wife drove home from work yesterday going through downtown at 5pm GOING THE SPEED LIMIT. Not saying that to be funny-I can't remember being able to do that on a work day in 20 years.

My wife is in the medical field, and has some doctor friends keeping tabs. She showed me the postings of a couple of doctors on the ground in Northern Italy. This is a well developed and supported part of the country. The thought was they downplayed the risks and it spread suddenly and quickly to the population. Though the percentages of people with bad reactions probably wasn't out of line with previous viruses, they all got sick at the same time and overloaded the hospitals and ER's, to the point where they're not doing elective procedures because they're trying to keep the ER afloat. The ventilators needed to keep folks alive are getting to be in short supply, so some of the hospitals are having to prioritize who gets them. If you have a pre morbidity or are into retirement age, they're going to prioritize otherwise healthy or younger people ahead of you-they're simply a better bet given the odds. This is what is feared by the other countries in Europe, and here as well.
Let's say this bug just takes out a good, quick number of the gray haired and infirm among us. That's pretty much the population every Goodguys, NCRS, and car club meeting I've been to in the last few years. Who's interested in being the one who brings the bug to your club, or your parents? Nobody here wants to die, but nobody REALLY wants to be Typhoid Mary of the Northwest, either.
I may be sensitive being in the eye of the storm here, but until you start seeing the fear and empty streets and stores, I don't think you're quite getting it.

[Zedder]

Good luck with things Tom. We were a hot spot for SARS in 2003 and have about 30 cases of Covid-19 currently, so I completely understand where you are coming from. Some of the comments here are absolutely mind boggling. No one has immunity to this virus nor can the vulnerable get a vaccine to help protect them. Given that, a mortality rate 30 times higher than influenza and a much higher rate of transmission, I can’t understand how anyone would think it is nothing to be concerned with (unless you live in the boonies and don’t visit medical centers).

[the427king]

I sure wouldnt want to have to fly or be in large groups of people right now. Fortunately I dont have to do either . I have family members in New Rochelle and that area is said to be the biggest cluster of cases currently in the US.

[EZ Nova]

Originally Posted by the427king

I sure wouldnt want to have to fly or be in large groups of people right now. Fortunately I dont have to do either . I have family members in New Rochelle and that area is said to be the biggest cluster of cases currently in the US.

Well, I'm going to be at Buffalo airport Saturday to fly down to visit my mom in Phoenix. Hoping we will be fine.........

[Tenney]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

[Vern B]

Originally Posted by Tenney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

Everyone should watch this, pretty sobering.

[Late BrakeU2]

Originally Posted by Tenney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

Joe is my next door neighbor, cool cat. Not an alarmist, but you can already see it digging in to most folks mindset. Traffic is holiday light, but it ain't a holiday. Like stated the auctions will be a tell to an extent.. but think folks that are after a car will just pony up the extra 2% for phone bids and send a guinea pig..i mean an inspector to check out a car in person.

[Zedder]

Back to the car price question...I suspect the aging population will have more to do with prices softening over the next few years than anything else. It seems that more cars are popping up for sale lately, but very few appear to be changing hands. The same ads are run over and over again. It would be interesting to know what the distribution of ages are on sites like this. I'm 57 and suspect that the median age might even be north of that. If so, another 5 years will have a dramatic impact on the hobby.