1969 Camaro Z/28 w/Special Order Paint

[Charley Lillard]

So the two of you did the same thing to that door panel and you didn't see the purple color ? Isn't it possible that maybe you just didn't take notice because you weren't looking for it ?

[William]

As I stated the paint under the door panel is mostly primer with a light top coat. We also looked at several other areas on the car. How about concentrating on the photos I posted? Particularly the cowl side pod photo taken by the owner.

We spent two hours examining the car inside a building and outside in natural light. Two hours.

[watk69]

The is the primer on some hidden areas on the famous survivor that has been discussed for quite some time



Hugger Survivor

[bcmiller]

[quote=watk69]This is the primer on some hidden areas on the famous survivor that has been discussed for quite some time.

Hugger Survivor



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The post quoted above from earlier in the thread seemed to be overlooked or maybe misunderstood.

The pics show some areas of primer that has a "purplish" tint to it. This is on a Hugger Orange 69 Z28 survivor with 21,000+ miles. Full coverage paint on the body is completely different.

Now, back to the car in question. I would not expected to see full body color on the areas that are covered up by the door panels or on the top of the car. Remember, when it was painted, they knew it was going to get a black vinyl top. What I would expect to see is primer and some overspray on those areas.

Full color coverage paint on the body would be different, as in the case of the Hugger Orange car.

In my opinion, there is no way to say that the color was EO based on what was found under the door panels or under the vinyl top. Those areas likely did not get FULL paint coverage like the outside of the body did.

The 1969 GM color Flamingo Silver (Olds) / Sunset Silver (Buick) - is not the same as EO.

[watk69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcmiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=watk69]This is the primer on some hidden areas on the famous survivor that has been discussed for quite some time.

Hugger Survivor



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The post quoted above from earlier in the thread seemed to be overlooked or maybe misunderstood.

The pics show some areas of primer that has a &quot;purplish&quot; tint to it. This is on a Hugger Orange 69 Z28 survivor with 21,000+ miles. Full coverage paint on the body is completely different.

Now, back to the car in question. I would not expected to see full body color on the areas that are covered up by the door panels or on the top of the car. Remember, when it was painted, they knew it was going to get a black vinyl top. What I would expect to see is primer and some overspray on those areas.

Full color coverage paint on the body would be different, as in the case of the Hugger Orange car.

In my opinion, there is no way to say that the color was EO based on what was found under the door panels or under the vinyl top. Those areas likely did not get FULL paint coverage like the outside of the body did.

The 1969 GM color Flamingo Silver (Olds) / Sunset Silver (Buick) - is not the same as EO.
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Thank God there are cars out there like the Hugger Orange Survivor to keep us sane, and differentiate real from fantasy or bad recollection. Cars like this truly are worth their weight in gold to the hobby. The car that is the subject of this 16 page plus thread may be just as the original owner states it is, but still glad we have survivors to draw reference from. The hugger orange car should be renamed &quot;The Truth&quot; and in my mind one of the most valuable 69 Camaros ever. Wish I owned it

[bkhpah]

I just got off the phone with the owner of what is being called &quot;the truth&quot; Camaro. The owner will have the car a MCACN this year for anyone who wants to see it. He has spent days cleaning the car, and told me there is NO purple primer on this car anywhere. ..BKH

[Charley Lillard]

So you guys spent two hours and never saw any of the purple that people are posting pics of ? Did you see the area in the above pic ? Did you get a pic ?

[William]

What is seen on the inside of the door is factory primer with very little top coat. We looked in several other areas with much better original paint coverage. All we saw was some form of silver paint. Had you been standing there telling me it was EO I would have laughed at you. EO is much darker than either silver mentioned.

I'm well aware of how the car was initially ordered. EO was not a current model year color. So Central Office contacts the dealer proposing a substitution. His wife worked there; says ok. Maybe never mentioned it. That car was ordered 47 years ago and there is no mention of EO on the original paperwork. The &quot;paperwork&quot; you have posted was done decades later. 47 years is long time. Look up #81 on AutoColorLibrary.com under '69 Oldsmobile-looks very similar to EO but in reality is much lighter. Maybe that's why the owner was disappointed?

None of you guys saw the original paint. We did.

[bkhpah]

I would have to say that not a single person here saw the original color except the original owner and Grabiaks. Of course Mrs.Z is now a prime suspect in this mystery. ..BKH

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Look up #81 on AutoColorLibrary.com under '69 Oldsmobile-looks very similar to EO but in reality is much lighter. Maybe that's why the owner was disappointed? </div></div>


I believe this very well could have been the case.. And whos to say GM even called to confirm the change.. They could have made the change on their own to the Sunset Silver Metallic. But again the photos of the car from the time and the photos of the car before restoration it is clearly not Cortez.