2023 Mecum Kissimmee

[black69]

A friend just sent me a picture of a black challenger T/A going for $200K. I got to start watching this on motortrend. crazy.

[njsteve]

Originally Posted by black69

A friend just sent me a picture of a black challenger T/A going for $200K. I got to start watching this on motortrend. crazy.

It went for $220,000 with commission.

It was a neat car. I knew Kenny Papa of Papa's Dodge way back in the early 1980's when he put on a show in Farmington, Connecticut every May. It was THE go-to Mopar show in the region. Everybody would debut their latest over-the-winter restorations at that show. And he had that black on black T/A there every year. I think he owned it since the late 1970's, as well as the blue Superbird. Here's a couple photos of the car from his 1982 show, so he had it for at least 40 years.

The only car that surprised me was how low the 1 of 12 produced, 1971 hemi/automatic Challenger went for. ($115,500 with commission).

Papa's Dodge is still in business in CT to this day.

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/kissi...pa-collection/

[black69]

thanks for posting that challenger!! what a great car and history. To me, I can see the price as its got the rare color combo, 4 spd, and its a real car. Wont find another easily.

Love the big tires in front!

[Jimlt4383]

Originally Posted by njsteve

It went for $220,000 with commission.

It was a neat car. I knew Kenny Papa of Papa's Dodge way back in the early 1980's when he put on a show in Farmington, Connecticut every May. It was THE go-to Mopar show in the region. Everybody would debut their latest over-the-winter restorations at that show. And he had that black on black T/A there every year. I think he owned it since the late 1970's, as well as the blue Superbird. Here's a couple photos of the car from his 1982 show, so he had it for at least 40 years.

The only car that surprised me was how low the 1 of 12 produced, 1971 hemi/automatic Challenger went for. ($115,500 with commission).

Papa's Dodge is still in business in CT to this day.

https://www.mecum.com/auctions/kissi...pa-collection/

I would suggest u do a Google search on the Vin on the challenger. 115k is way to much.

[Kurt S]

But what a great color on that 67!

[jeffschevelle]

First post said "Prices down and most of no sales the first two days at Kissimmee. I hope this turns around..."

I think your wish came true !!

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Originally Posted by jeffschevelle

First post said "Prices down and most of no sales the first two days at Kissimmee. I hope this turns around..."

I think your wish came true !!

Jeff

Take a look at the 66/67 SS prices. Insane prices and as we all know. You can’t believe everything you READ when cars are described as REAL etc etc LOL

[GrumpyJeff]

Thankfully I'm content with what i own ! And I luckily purchased before this huge up swing on Muscle Car price's. My 70 RS Z/28 was purchased in 2010 & my 70 SS Chevelle in 2017. Recently I have had serious cash offers on both cars at more than double my original purchase prices ... That being said , I feel confident in saying that there is No Way i could even come close to replacing either car for what i could of sold them for ? Hard to find anything privately anymore ! Sadly these auctions & all the Muscle Car dealer/ brokers have priced most blue collar Motor Heads out of the market ?!?!

[black69]

time to adjust insurance policy values.

[turbo69bird]

I’ll chime in on restoration shops, I believe many times the prices seem high because everything is easy from your desk, or your lazy boy. The people complaining have probably never worked with toxic chemicals or done physical labor, they see a part time gardener or ditch digger getting low hourly pay and assume everyone who works with their hands should too.
I personally had isocyanate issues from paint and can’t work with it anymore. (So I know that possible cost) As much as the prices will kill me to pay, when the time comes, I also understand just how much work goes into doing a car correctly. It’s not just the labor, it’s the knowledge , it’s the tools , it’s the storage, it’s the real estate to do it all and it’s the time chasing parts. Even myself I forget just how much time goes into it, because when it’s your own car some of that is already covered because it’s your home or your business expenses your already covering, plus parts chasing is kinda fun (well not for me but for some) a restoration shop has to roll all that cost into each car

That being said I have seen some absolutely outrageous prices (for a regular guy to pay) thrown out by some restoration shops, plus you’d be upside down even in a very valuable car. For some money isn’t an object and that’s where those prices come from the cost to KNOW a guys reputation and know how it’s gonna come out and not be sold or stolen, or in auto body jail is well worth being upside down. Give it a few years the market will catch up anyway, right.

So there’s a little of both out there I guess depends which person you are what category you fall into. The old saying holds true there’s an azz for every seat nothings changed it always has and always will suck for those without the coin for the finer things in life and high end muscle cars have turned into the finer things in life.
I’m just happy I bought mine in the late 80s and early 90s just wish I’d bought all the parts I needed then too. Still glad I raced the heck out of them though.

That’s my .02 cents and it’s probably only worth .01 at best ��