68 yenko

[Kim_Howie]

He didn't he wasn't coming NEXT weekend. Just not this weekend.

[JoeC]

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Even though the Yenko paperwork clearly shows 107 VINs, 1967 Yenko Camaros IMO, when it comes to such cars, the number built is not as important as the number of documented cars that exist today. Such as '69 Yenko Novas, 9 known to exist, how many built/sold 37, 40, ? The problem is some of the lists seem to contain both converted and unconverted cars, and of course factor in documented cars that are not on the list, then the number built/sold is really subject to debate. On the other hand, it is easier to get close to the number of documented cars known to exist. Of course Don did not help matters when questioned about numbers built.

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That’s true but a lot of people ask how many were made as well as how many found.

If you research the 107 list, it becomes apparent that there is something seriously wrong with the first half. A few have been identified as not being 427 Camaros and the known documented early car is not on the list. The first half of the 107 list is just a vin list and is not a Yenko inventory list. Most of them are ghost cars with no information, no Yenko Stock number, no color, no dealer info, nothing.

This first half of the 107 list shown on here is all blank except for the vin.

I don’t think the 107 number is accurate for 1967 Yenko 427 Camaro Production. IMO

The second half of the 107 list is where the 54 Yenko 427 Super Camaros are with YS 7xx numbers and inventory info.

The known early car is YS 604 and is a March build. If you count all the vins between the last YS 6xx vin and the first YS 7xx vin there can only be a about 10 cars.

I have heard of a YS 606 so I use 6 as the min and 16 as the max. Add that to the 54 YS 7xx cars and I get between 60 and 70.

I believe Don exaggerated the 107 list for promotional reasons as he did on many other occasions.

A more accurate number for the 1967 Yenko 427 Camaro is
60-70 as far as I can tell.

[sYc]

Sorry Joe, I disagree.

First of all, have you seen Vince's paperwork from which he came up with the magic 57 number? And if in fact he has paperwork for 57 (which I do not think he does, as Warren has some of it), how can we be sure he has all of the information? You yourself said there are more then 57.

This list for '67 Yenkos that I have came from the Yenko estate and was verified by Donna Mae as legit, so IMO we have to accept it.

You can theorize all you want, but I like to stick to facts. Anytime one starts adding their own ideas into the mix, only muddies the water. I know of at least two “experts” who tried doing this, and now are involved in court cases. As I said on numerous occasions, I will let the paperwork speak for itself.

[Mr70]

I've always wondered how many of these were considered made.
Tom,are you saying you subscribe to the count of 107 for 1967's,or should it be more or less?

[sYc]

To tell you the truth, I have no idea, and I do not think anyone else does either. Do you go on what Don said, or Vince, or Warren, or Joe C., or "the list" of 107 I have? How do the non-converted cars fit in, are they Yenkos?

Case in point(s). Don said in an interview that he built 500 units in '69 , which seems to be Camaros, there is even a sign. We have numbers for 199-201 Camaros, would be closer to 500 if we added up all of the '69s, so who do we believe? I say 199 Camaros, 99 Chevelles, 40ish '69 Novas, with an * that there could be more, just have not seen proof yet. Same with the '69 Novas, the magic number was 37, but we know of one not on the list with bullet proof paperwork, so there goes that number. Yes, the car was sold non-converted, but so were others on the list. What does this info do to that list?

See where this is going?

I could have kept the info I had private, and just thrown numbers out as others have done, but felt it best for the hobby for me to go public. Makes for some very interesting discussions, but at the end of the day, we will always wind up back at square one, which is lots of ?????, but few answers.

This is why I say it is easier, and best, to simply list how many are known to exist.

[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

Very well put Tom,

I know on the Stingers, that everytime Don was interviewed, he gave a different # of cars he built. I have a letter from Don (on Yenko letterhead) to Joe Burch in Dallas (Joe owned many Stingers over the years)that states that he built 300 Stingers. There was never anywhere close to 300 Stingers. I know the Stingers are not the SuperCars, but the trail of "differences" in the quantity of cars built stays consistent.

[camarojoe]

as far as the photo of the 69 camaro with the "500th Unit Built" sign on it, don't be fooled into thinking that only meant camaros... I have another pic taken the same day, in the same Colonial Chevrolet showroom, with the same sign on top of a Yenko Chevelle. Personally I don't know if the sign meant ANYTHING, and may have just been some Don Yenko marketing BS to impress the media and the big shots at Colonial on that particular day, or it COULD have been reference to ALL 69 syc cars sold, or maybe even all cars sold by Yenko in general for 69 ( including pickups, station wagons etc) ... Who knows... I just know yenko wasn't above "padding" actual numbers or fudging the truth to make himself and his business seem even bigger than it was. - jb

[sYc]

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as far as the photo of the 69 camaro with the "500th Unit Built" sign on it, don't be fooled into thinking that only meant camaros... I have another pic taken the same day, in the same Colonial Chevrolet showroom, with the same sign on top of a Yenko Chevelle. Personally I don't know if the sign meant ANYTHING, and may have just been some Don Yenko marketing BS to impress the media and the big shots at Colonial on that particular day, or it COULD have been reference to ALL 69 syc cars sold, or maybe even all cars sold by Yenko in general for 69 ( including pickups, station wagons etc) ... Who knows... I just know yenko wasn't above "padding" actual numbers or fudging the truth to make himself and his business seem even bigger than it was. - jb

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Yep...could be any of the above, or none of the above. Who knows?

[JoeC]

That is my point. Don Yenko did not agree with Don Yenko.
His numbers are all over the place. I am not saying anything negitive about DY as I am one of his biggest fans.

Luckly he did leave us a lot of material to research so we have to put it all together to see what could be possible.

My estimate of 60-70 is for 1967 "427" Camaros and is based on many other reasons. We know the 107 is not correct as some have been identified as not 427 cars and one found car is not on the list.

I believe the sign said 350 units and VE said 54 67s.
I'll have to check. We can't even get the numbers right today so how can Don

[sYc]

I guess my biggest beef with throwing numbers around, such as "60-70" is once they are out there, they wind up in print, then everyone considers that as gospil, when in fact none of us know.