SURVIVOR SHOW

[Verne_Frantz]

Thanks for the explanation Steve. I understand what they're trying to do and I have read all their info about it (I posted the link to it near the top of this thread).
The reason why I asked about the testing procedure was because I don't completely understand how anyone can administer a test (and properly score it) without knowing the answers themselves. I could ask someone what the air cleaner stencil should look like on a Pacer, but I'd have no idea if their answer was accurate or not. I hope their program works, but it's dependant on them certifying knowledgeable people, like you.
My earlier comment may have sounded sarcastic and negative, but that was just my concern about their ability to have the knowledge needed to properly certify survivor judges. I hope they can somehow pick the right ones; otherwise those first "certified" cars may not really meet the mark. They need to be as concerned about the outcome of their (and their judges') certification as they are about protecting their trademark on the word "survivor".
I think they found themselves in this position by surprise. Since they had the trademark, they finally realized (from the backlash they received) that it had become their obligation to certify every other kind of car in order for it to be called a "survivor". (Either that, or sell trademark licenses to other marque groups.) I feel they didn't realize what a big bite they were taking out of the hobby when they trademarked that term. Do I feel they were pretentious and arrogant when they did that? Yes! Do I feel their new program to certify survivor cars from all other marques is just damage control or to avoid lawsuits over their trademark? Yes! Do I hope it works out for the best interest of the whole hobby? Yes!

Verne

[Steve Shauger]

Verne no problem. I don't believe they are worried about lawsuits and such. They have set judging standards which have been in place since the early seventies and survivor in 1990. As you point out they trademarked the term survivor when aplied to a cars status or condition. I think you will agree it is way over used. Many cars listed as survivors on ebay wouldn't qualify, but rather survived and thats about it.

The Bloomington folks realize they aren't intimately familiar with most models/brands outside corvettes and are looking for experts for those models. How this all rolls out remains to be scene. I believe there will be more participation from GM car lines versus Ford & Mopar but all are invited. This program will evolve and we will just have to wait to see the level of response/interest.

[pSYCo]

...who's comin' ??????

[Stefano]

Fill up the cooler.

[pSYCo]

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Fill up the cooler.

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[JIM]

Its too bad this show is this weekend as I'm taking 3 of my survivor Chevelle's to the Aces Northeast regionls. I would have loved to taken at least one there. Next year !!! Hey don't pick on Pacers I have the only one to have run in the Cannonball Run !!!!

Jim

[1railman]

Was there for Corvette show and left this morning (Sunday) and did not attend Survivor show. I did however see a 61 300G being unloaded and went over it. I would say it was the nicest early letter car extant.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

I too made it to the survivor show today and saw many nice survivor cars there. Here are my pics of what I thought were some of the best....enjoy


Here's the 61 300G



























Really nice orginal 1966 Hemi Charger







Very nice survivor 1969 Chevelle fluffed up by our very own Dan Vasic (Post Sedan)









Very very nice 1968 Cutless "Ram Rod 350"

[Postsedan]

Randy,

Thanks for the Great Pics.....we can always count on you. Bruce`s L78 Chevelle looked great...its just one of those cars that has it all. I really enjoy working on it.

Love the 68 Ram-Rod Olds!

Dan.

[Woj]

Randy,

Very nice photos. Thanks for taking the time.

Is this going to be an annual event? I'd like to try to get there next year.

Thanks.

Phil Woj.