Gobi Yenko Deuce finds its way to EBaY

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I studied the photos a bit more, some minor items to note:

1. Steering column might have been hacked on - look carefully.
2. Has a fender mounted radio antenna
3. I don't see any E-brake stuff
4. SB trans crossmember
5. Scattershield instead of the requisite 621

Nothing major on any of these items, just noting them.

[mockingbird812]

I noticed on the vintage photo that the left side of the trunk lid has what appears to be a dealer emblem (Mancuso? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] ). No rear sway bar.

[enio45]

My belief ref the rear - as im hearing, if the rear is NOT orig to the car, then finding an orig Deuce rear is next to impossible. As i shared with Marlin, usually you can find a COPO BE rear for sale and at the end of the day for a correct one, inside and out - you will have 14-15K into it. BUT, you can find them!

As for the Deuce Rear, I'm not seeing them available anywhere for a long long time and for a few people that may have a spare rear - 15K will not get you one.....so having said all the above -without the rear, the car should be at least 15K or more LESS than a car with an original rear.

JMO from a Camaro GUY :-) with a BE rear!!

[Schonyenko2]

You are correct Ed. I think it's irresponsible on the sellers part to not state if both the rear, and trans are original to the car. Almost like they want you to bid it up, (roll the dice) to see if they are there. Your bad if they're not.
Bidding on a &quot;maybe they're there&quot; just don't cut it. Not when it's easy to just look.
It's a cool car with good paper. I'd love to have it. It is what it is. But not listing all the assets, or lack of them is wrong. I'm done venting now......for a little while.

[92646]

I am confused on a couple of observations because I do not know enough about these cars. It was noticed that the car has a small block trans cross member but with the car being built with an LT-1 350 from the factory what cross member should it have? I thought if a Nova came with a radio in 1970 the antenna would be mounted in the windshield. Was a fender mounted antenna ever offered in 1970? Is just the dash gauge panel from a later model Nova or has the whole dash carrier assembly been replaced?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 92646</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am confused on a couple of observations because I do not know enough about these cars. It was noticed that the car has a small block trans cross member but with the car being built with an LT-1 350 from the factory what cross member should it have? I thought if a Nova came with a radio in 1970 the antenna would be mounted in the windshield. Was a fender mounted antenna ever offered in 1970? Is just the dash gauge panel from a later model Nova or has the whole dash carrier assembly been replaced? </div></div>

The Deuces came with a BB crossmember, not sure why but we think its a carryover from the '69 COPO 9737 which was BB based. The '70 Deuces all have AM Radios w/ windshield antenna's, I think even the FM cars got 'em - but got ground straps. Can't tell if the speedo unit is from '72 or just the bezel.

The car looks like it indeed had its frame off at some point in order to get the gobi bottom treatment, not a huge deal, but is another indicator that the car is more likely a 104k mile car. I noticed the tach wires go to the center of underside of the hood, but the tach appears to be mounted in the correct location - just made me curious.

I asked the seller on Monday to post pics of the trans/rear, and told him exactly where/how to do it. The car is easily accessible as is the lift. Ed is correct, I don't know that I've ever seen but one CBW rear found loose in the market, so they are all but unobtainable - they are also rarely missing from Deuces, but until we know this car very well may stall.

[92646]

Thank you Marlin. I was one of the bidders but to be honest I would like to to see pictures of hidden VINS in addition to the drivetrain numbers and I am concerned about any major damage the car may have seen in it's past. Still a neat car but it would be better with some answers.

[volspeed1970]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Deuces came with a BB crossmember, not sure why but we think its a carryover from the '69 COPO 9737 which was BB based. The '70 Deuces all have AM Radios w/ windshield antenna's, I think even the FM cars got 'em - but got ground straps. Can't tell if the speedo unit is from '72 or just the bezel.</div></div>

Isn't the white lettering on the cluster and radio dial a dead give-away that the entire cluster has been changed to a '72? Even the radio knobs are 71-72.

If they used a big block crossmember would the transmission sit crooked in the car since the engine wasn't offset, or did the car use the big block frame stands?

[talwell]

As for the value - it is hugely dependant upon knowing if the trans matches the vin tag and if the rear is in the car. Without these pieces in the car - the car has probably already reached the full value. The car appears to have been completely disassembled and put back together at one time. Note the body color painted underside - maybe I am wrong but I think this should be black and not fully painted to match the body color. As well, the bumper valance has been painted incorrectly to match the body color as well. Unless the current owner has removed the air cleaner for display - it would appear that this car has been setting a long time open to the elements.

This will be a great project from someone - I spoke to the owner and he is a great guy representing the bank that repossesed the car.

[Chevy454]

Non original drivetrain sounds like a plus to me...that way the buyer won't feel guilty when he builds it for Pure Stock! 12.50s or bust! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]