E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[RamAirDave]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he told me that all 1969 Camaros have their rivets installed like that!!!!</div></div>

IIRC, LOS/VN and NOR rivets were installed differently due to Fisher and the point in the assembly process in which the windshield was installed. NOR from underneath, LOS from the top.

[m22mike]

Dave
Here is a 1969 Camaro 05A Van Nuys car

[RamAirDave]

It would appear that I did not remember correctly [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

[m22mike]

It gets worse with age too... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]...now where did I put that &amp;^%$...

[L78steve]

Nova and Camaro are all rivited from the bottom that I have seen.

[black69]

Hey Bergy, I feel better again about my post I made relative to your car. I think you have a shot if that VIN tag has been with most of the shell, I would think otherwise if it was truely removed and reattached at one time, and you have no remaining hidden vins that match.

I would think the state may grant you the right to keep that VIN, and at that point, you should remove the wrong old firewall pieces and replace with non stamped material. Keep the state paperwork always with the car that authorizes the VIN, and life is good.

[COPO140]

Hey Bergy,
Your research sounds encouraging and I certainly wish you the best of luck. I do have a question though. Have you offered this car for sale recently to anyone? If so, why do you want to sell it midstream of your research?

[bergy]

the car is absolutely not for sale Tom. I have had a lot of interest, but anyone who asked has been told that it is not for sale - period. Like you said, there is a lot of research left to do. Thanks for helping me clear that up.

[rpoz11]

Bergy, good day to you Sir.

After 18 pages of...discussion,

You need to decide for yourself exactly what you have here in your posession.

Some of us have 1 Camaro, some of us have several.

I personally have 2 69's in my posession.
<span style="font-weight: bold">BOTH</span> ... I can prove, have VIN's that are present on the Cowl Panel and the Firewall matching my dash VIN tag.

Bergy,
After 18 pages of...discussion here,
If you do NOT have the VIN stamped on the Cowl and Firewal &quot;Heater Core&quot; area matching the VIN tag on the dash,
Then you have a Camaro that is in question, and by many views, is not a complete car.

I agree with the person who stated that the VIN stamped on the Cowl &amp; Firewall Heater Box area as the true identity of any 1969 Camaro, with regards, in question here.

I think you need to stop,
with consideration that you are NOW the current owner of this Camaro in question,
put an end to everyone's speculation &amp; quite frankly : your own,
and take the front sheetmetal off of the car and start documenting EXACTLY what you have in your posession!

Your paper trail helps determine the path of the car's past.
Your paper trail provides evidence of the VIN statements.

You need to decide which car is truly in your posession:
The VIN riveted into the dash panel....or
The VIN stamped on the cowl panel.

If your Cowl Panel VIN stamping is NOT matching the Firewall Heater Box VIN stamping ( including the Dash Panel VIN ),

Then you have a very serious decision to make with what you have.

Please,
after 18 pages.... of discussion:
Take the sheetmetal off of the front of this car and document what is currently present and move forward with your decision on this car in question.

Note:
Good Luck to you !
I wish you the best of luck on your decision.
No one in this Hobby wants to go thru what you are about to do.

[1969z280]

In the State of Indiana, all out of state titles require an inspection by a police officer or employee of the Bureau of Motor Vehicles. They check the title and match it to the VIN tag on the car. They run that VIN nationally to establish that it is not stolen, had liens applied to it, etc.

No one checks the hidden VINs on the car. They simply use the VIN tag. I commend Bergy for his honesty and this open discussion of his car. It amazes me how many people want to defraud his process and tell him what to do with his propery.

Bergy, I'm looking forward to seeing you make some passe at the Super Car Reunion!