Trans Am Racers

[MotownMadman]

Jeff, There are a LOT of cars that are missing from the TA history, when these cars were registered for an event they were registered with there VIN number so it is possible to go back in the records and track down a specific car. Many didnt have titles, but all had a manufactuer VIN and some like Shelbys also had a # from Kar Kraft stamped in the roll bar as well as other locations. I will get with your friend and see if I can track down his VIN having been entered in any races, which will also provide vital information as to owner, team, etc. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

[redvetracr]

The "plate" you refer to was a brass tag riveted on (Trans-Am cars) and easily switched (yes there are scam artists in vintage racing) Race results, dated pictures, SCCA log books are all items of verification. Things get tricky with log books as they were just starting to be used 71-72 and the SVRA wants pre`73 history but anything raced in any type of SCCA (wheel to wheel) competition should have a log book AND the corresponding number stamped in the roll bar (main hoop) ..redvetracr

[TimG]

Redvetracr, apparently Dave Rex and Dave MacClymont had submitted race history of my car to SCCA years ago. Do you know of any way to access the records of SCCA? Road America has researched their records from the years my car competed and won at that track and they are forwarding this information to me.
To all, if you want to have the most fun you can have without doing something illegal, head to Road America for the vintage races in July.

[Jeff H]

Redvetracr, I've heard about some of the "TA cars" for sale that turn out to be the SCCA tag and original VIN from a wrecked car. So guys can build a car with those pieces and go racing. It's a shame this kind of stuff happens, but it always seems to be about the money. On the other side, it's a shame to see a vintage car that is wrecked not be replaced somehow in the race circuit.

[redvetracr]

JeffH,
Being a "Camaro guy" maybe you remember a Camaro driven (in Trans-Am) by Carl Shaeffer (late 60`s/early 70`s out of Shaeffer farms in southern Illinois)it was a`69 later raced (for many years)in SCCA by Beloit WI radio personality Jerry Dunbar and sponsored by Super America gas stations?? One year at the SCCA runoffs (Road Atlanta) the back side of the track was dry but on the front half it was raining well a bunch of cars got wrecked coming down the hill leading onto the front straight, one being the Dunbar Camaro, the car was totaled!! it was bent so bad it sat on three wheels and the roof looked like a tent in the middle, well Dunbar sells it to a guy who strips it and TAKES IT TO THE JUNK YARD!! Title and all!! BUT he sells different parts to two or three guys, the tag went one way and the roll bar went another and the front frame another, one guy even offered this guy $50 for the Super America poster of Dunbar that was hanging in the guy`s son`s room!! I have heard there are two or three guys restoring the ex Shaeffer farms/ Jerry Dunbar Camaro. And Dunbar has told me he had lost the SCCA log book. So yes cars are "recreated" and I know all this because I got the Revolution/Compomotive modular wheels off the car. ...redvetracr

[TimG]

The Shelby Registry has many stories of Cobras being junked and then being rebuilt as two different cars. It is great reading.

[Chevy454]

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The Shelby Registry has many stories of Cobras being junked and then being rebuilt as two different cars. It is great reading.

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Boy, that statement brings back memories...nightmares, actually. We sold a '66 Shelby Mustang not too long ago that was involved in a similar fiasco. The Shebly club has dropped the ball more than once. Don't even get dad started!

[68l30]

Here are some shots of the "Tag" from the 67/68 "Lightweight car".......

Steve

[68l30]

Another......sorry before digital [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Steve

[68l30]

One more pit shot with the Dana Camaro and Winkel Camaro (I think).

Steve