1969 427 camaro copo?????

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hello
i am impressed with this board, so much that i joined it and would like to discuss a few things.
first off, im impressed with alot of the knowledge from alot of the members here.
second everyone is so kind i thought i would join.
i havent ever joined something like this because i dont want people coming to my door so to speak.
this is why:
when i was 18 or so, i was a mustang freak, i had a neighbor bring his car to me to fix, he must have thought i was a good mechanic because i did a complete resto of a 67 mustang on my parents driveway, it was about 300 ft long, yes the car was from the end of the driveway to the front with parts. i replaced the floors and all the sheetmetal etc...
anyway, he needed the brakes fixed on his car, when he called he ask me to come and get it, the keys are in it he said. i went to go get it a few miles away, the brakes felt spungy so i tried it slowly to go home, the brakes werent working very good but i made it.
it had the original 427 in it, it had the air cleaner and all. it looked like it was messed with a litle bit to me.
i replaced the masted cylinder and the brakes worked but i had to press hard, then i heard a hissing sound from under the dash, the old master cylinder leaked from the rear so bad it damaged the rubber diaphram in the booster. i fixed it, and gave him the old parts, he said i dont want them you keepem. i dont know why but i took them back home.
i threw them in the corner of my dirt floor garage.

well about 6 months went by, and he called me again, he asked if i wanted to buy this car? why would i want it it i asked?
he said he needed the money and thought i had it, well i went and got it and brought it home, my younger sister was visiting our farm and i took her a ride, man did she love it, she said
"you gotta buy this car" the woman will love it, well i bought it and guess what? it had a 350 2 barrel in it???? i went to talk to him about the bigger motor and he said, oh yeah his dad made him take it out and i could go talk to the other guy who worked on it and get the motor and stuff that was in the car, so i did, he gave me so much stuff it didnt fit in the trunk, see i never looked under the hood to even see if it had the bigger motor, so i went and got it. he gave me the console, the air cleaner, wiring to the console, the carpet was soaked with oil, so they took it out. there was so much stuff i had to put some of it in the back seat. anyway the rest is history as they say.
i then parked it in the barn for about 2 yrs. threw the bigger motor which was all dissasembled, in with the chickens in the chicken coop, and left it, they laid egggs in the lifter valley for yrs.
now this is when i was about 18 i didnt care for chevys, but the water pump went out on it and i was told to fix it, because it was leaking on the barns wood floor and dad wouldnt have it, so after i pulled 4 fan bolts and 4 water pump bolts, i was like hey this is to easy?? compared to all the different ford bolts to take out, i then started to like the car, dad had a vette stingray in the garage and i was told, you should drive that car not the ford?
so i did, i took it up town and man did the heads turn! ! !
this car had 38000 miles on it, but the seats were loose, the back seat wasnt installed right, there were wires hanging down in the middle by the heater, i didnt even know what for??
yrs later i figured out what the accelerator hole was for, it went to a switch to open the hood flap, it is factory cowl induction and i thought the relay was for air conditioning, but the car doesnt have A/C, who cared at the time.
he painted the car before i worked on it and put the Z stripes on it and it does look nice i must say, to this day it has 46000 miles on it, the VIN is stamped on the trans, its a little messed up and not to straight but its there, and the block is very rusty but it has the VIN from the car on it as well, it is a MN stamp on the block pad and i think it says 1020 and the vin is by the oil filter, the trans is a 5661 M21, and was so messed up my friend had to hold it in 4th to get home, it just jumped out of gear when you stepped on the gas.
so i threw that in the barn and let it be, i had to get this car running for my wedding, i am now almost 45 and i had to find a trans because the one i had in it broke going to my friends funeral, so i went to the barn i own now, which is a different one than when i was a kid, but i kept alot of muncies, this is one i had left and never tore up because i never used it. i think all the stampings are real and un touched because i never even knew about that kind of info when i was a kid, so i discovered the trans vin when i bead blasted the trans and ordered gears for it, the trans had a B on it for a M21 but i counted the teeth and it was a M20, so i rebuilt it to M21 specs and got it going for the wedding, first time married by the way, no kids either.
now comes the rear diff, this is a 10E car X11 124379N factory big block all the way no if's or butts about it, it stands so tall in the front with a small block that it took shackles in the rear to level the car out, never ever had the heater core out of it or the heater box ,to this day. i checked the vin under the cowl and pulled the kick panels which were never out of the car and saw some numbers so i investigated, they are upside down but they match as well.
from my vin number this car was made during the last 5-9 days of the norwood plant before making the 70 camaro's. its so late that some of the stuff is from the 70 cars? is this the last one made??
anyway, thers is so much history i have on this car, not paper work, but from what ive done to it as a kid and so on, i did put a new windshield in it and found the protecto plate stuffed under the dash when we took out the dash pad, which is broken up under neath so we re-installed the dash with a chrome strip to hold down the front of the dash from curling up i thought it was a credit card, i gave it to the guy who helped me with the windshield and did some paint touch up and undercoated the car for me, he kept it, i called him and he still has it, i have yet to go get it, but he has it and said he would send it to me. now ive done some investigating on the rear diff and it has a BE 1030G2 on it with a E under all of the numbers,which means a oct 30 assembly date BUT the cast date is F239 which makes no sense to me at all??? i cant make up my mind if its an 8 or a 9 you look at it one way and its a 9 or the other way and it might be an 8 but the rear diff has never been out of the car and i even tore out the factory 4:11's, the pinion nut came loose when i stopped at a stop sign and it locked up, i was like what?? i didnt keep the gears but dad showed me what to look for and turn the driveshaft and the tires and all, way before hand, then when i tore it out, i counted the teeth on the ring gear and on the pinion and did the math and it really was a 4:10 ratio, i put new gears in, but the old posi unit was scarred up a little so i got a new one, thing is i still have it to, it has a FH 425 J and 52 and 425 hand stamped on it on the part that the bolts go through to hold the ring gear to it. its also casted with a EDB 30174, the casting in the rear diff is 3894860, ive asked a guy about it and he says its should be something else?? but its a june diff and they changed to what he said after sept or so, so i think it should be the right casting for the F239 date thats cast into it?
why would a BE1030G2 rear diff have a F239 cast date???
im going to have a certification done on it, i talked to a guy named doug something and he said congrats its a copo, but whats with the cast dates? he also said "if you ever want to sell it ask me first ok?" thing is, do i really need it certified? its alot of money to do it, i have everything to it??
can anyone shed light on this, i could go on forever about the history of this car with me, so dad told me to start to write it down, i started with what i told on here, but alot more details, its 6 pages long and counting!!
please let me know about this car because i have the original alt 1100837,the holley carb 4346, pulleys,water pump,master cyl and booster, hold off valve, distributor,air cleaner heads 291, coil im not to sure about, 3163 intake but dates are to hard to read?? anyway the guy i bought it off of wont tell me anything else because he wanted to buy it back about 6 months after i got it and i said no, i wont sell it, its in the barn and im going to keep it, so the only thing he told me when i bought it was that he had it a about 8 months and he got it from a guy who bought it from glockner chevrolet, in portsmouth, thats about and hour from me or less.
anyone who could shed light on this please let me know
thank you for reading this, its interesting to me even sometimes. i replaced the front fenders and the grill when i was a kid, the guy who helped with the windshield also helped me, the grill was silver, it seemed odd to me??
i really dont care what the car is but my friends told me for yrs that this car was something neat and special we never figured it out, they always said there is something about that car?? i dont care what it is, as long as i can finally figure it out! ! ! i had a guy drive 6 hours one way just to look at it, and he said it was definetly worth the trip, he also wanted to buy it, but its not for sale, i dont care if its a 6 cylinder car, i had to much fun in it when i was a kid and i dont want people marching to my door to ask for it, when i was a kid i had this set up on the car, i had a 58 vette 2x4 set up factory down to the bolts for the thermostat housing and the linkage and all, i got hunted down so bad i had to hide them, and ended up selling them, i wont sell this car ever. i was offered my full mortgage payment for it, i turned it down in 1 second.
please let me know, someone out there can shed light on this