Documented and Authentic 69 RS Z28 Camaro

[Mr70]

Like the 1969 COPO Chevelles,I believe those are included in the RPO L-78 Camaro count I quoted.

[Ziggysdad]

All I said was there were 243,000 1969 Camaros of all types and 2117 1969 Camaros that got the M22. I am not stating anything else. The math is simple. 2117 divided by 243,000. What do you get?

[DarrenX33]

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RobsLS6
It's you & Jerry who are not understanding the numbers correctly,and here's why.
In 1969,the only Camaros to <u>possibly</u> receive the M-22 trans. was the 396/375HP L-78 or 302/290HP Z/28.
They made a total of 20,302 1969 Z/28 equipped camaros.
They made a total of <u>4889</u> 1969 SS L-78 equipped camaros.(inc.COPO)
For a grand total of 25,191 camaros that could have <u>possibly</u> received the M-22 trans..
But obviously not everyone of them did,as some got an Auto trans,but Chevrolet didn't keep detailed track of that.
So based on that grand total of cars able to recieve the M-22 and of the 2117 M-22's installed between them,the closest ratio is more like 9%,which = 2267-(which in reality is a lil less as not everyone of them received it)
Still a scarce %,but not your earlier quoted 1%,that's for sure.
That 243K + figure Jerry is quoting you is the total production for ALL 1969 Camaros built..i.e 6 cyl., 2dr. coupe &amp; convert. Of which 100's of thousands were ineligible for the M-22 trans.

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Good explanation..

[Mr70]

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All I said was there were 243,000 1969 Camaros of all types and 2117 1969 Camaros that got the M22. I am not stating anything else. The math is simple. 2117 divided by 243,000. What do you get?

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But your's or Jerrys' stated quote of 1% is misleading.
Your comparing it to the wrong total.
Not all those 243K + camaros were eligible for the M-22.
Why include cars that could never recieve it in the first place?

[DWCamaro69]

Both arguments are correct. Rob didn't say 1% of the '69 Camaros that could receive an M22. He said 1% of all 69 Camaros. I think we all understand that it is around 9-10% of the 69 Camaros that were eligible for the M22 option.

[Ziggysdad]

First off let me be clear. Jerry only reaffirmed the 2117 number. It is I that said 1%. I understand what you guys are saying and I am not misleading anyone other then stating the fact that on 2117 1969 Camaros had an M22. Do we agree on that?

[Stuart Adams]

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All I said was there were 243,000 1969 Camaros of all types and 2117 1969 Camaros that got the M22. I am not stating anything else. The math is simple. 2117 divided by 243,000. What do you get?

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The difference is your making it a selling point, when infact it was not possible for ALL camaros to get the 22. Your car type (Z28) is in the 20000 category.

100% of the 20,000 got the 302. Which make it about 8-9% off all the camaros made. About the same % as got the 22 in the cars possible category. Probably a standard production ratio.

[DarrenX33]

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First off let me be clear. Jerry only reaffirmed the 2117 number. It is I that said 1%. I understand what you guys are saying and I am not misleading anyone other then stating the fact that on 2117 1969 Camaros had an M22. Do we agree on that?

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Kinda no, you have to consider that 1969 Camaros includes 6 cyl cars which didn't get the M22. I believe what Rick stated was the clearest explanation.

[Steve Shauger]

How about this as a compromise:

Of the cars that the M22 was available in 8-9 percent received it(z28, COPO's L78/L89 &amp; Z28)

Also out of total production of 243,000 camaros only 2117 cars were equipped with the M22 or .87%

The horse has been beat to death on this one. Both views are valid, so lets move on. BTW Rob congratulation on decision to keep them both.

[Mr70]

Understood..an official Welcome aboard RobsLS6 and to you too Mr.Shauger.