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Old 02-03-2023, 02:24 PM
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They are charging a ton of extra money for the final year Jailbreak package which was supposed to give you the extra componentry to get the 807hp level with a full 3/36 and 5/50 powertrain warranty.

Now that they have dropped it to the previous 2022 model year's 797 rating, they have NOT dropped the price to reflect the difference. On the widebody Redeye Jailbreak and the Superstock, you are paying that extra money to "unlock" an entire menu of extra interior, trim, stripes, and axle ratio options in addition to the different engine management software that allows for the extra 10 hp. On the narrow body, all that extra money gets you now, is a choice of three more exterior paint colors than they had in 2022: Sublime, Plum Crazy and Destroyer Grey. You can't even order the 3.09 rear gear any more on the narrow body.

For example if you wanted to add that missing high performance controller through the (still NOT available but advertised as available) Direct Connection Pre-Stage and Stage 1 packages, you would have to pay around $2,000 extra and your warranty would be voided.

The 807 rating on a factory built car means the car has its full warranty as a brand new car.

It's also the bragging rights and future value of the last of these cars at the highest HP rating ever. Since it is the same car as my 2022 but in a different color there is no reason to give up the 2022 that I got at a really good price ($10K under sticker) to buy a purple one at a much higher full sticker price. (around $20k more after sales tax, etc). So basically I'd be paying $20K over the cost of my 2022 for purple paint. My son said I could wrap it in purple for around $3K and give him the difference. LOL

Kind of like ordering a 1967 L88 Corvette but what shows up at the dealer is a 1967 L71 Corvette. That was only a 5hp difference on paper but a world of difference in collectibility and value.

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Old 02-03-2023, 08:05 PM
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Sorry to read this, Steve. I did doubt the final build count from the start, but having them screw with the ratings, costs and warranty is unethical.
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Old 02-04-2023, 06:33 AM
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I do t blame you at all, they just don’t really care about the consumer at dodge, I’ve written some scathing posts on the hellcat forums . When you ask 27 times to be 100 percent sure the Durango is gonna be a one year only. And 27 times the dealers swear it’s absolutely positively going to be a one year only. Then a year later they make another run I can assure you you are not very happy w that company and its dealer network and this wasn’t one dealer I asked it was many different dealers. That IS going to affect values down the road . If all I wanted was a fast car I’d have bought a model X or S Tesla plaid (which I did also) and smoked the crap out of the hellcats . I like my hellcat Durango but I’m not happy w Dodge at all. :-( They lie about so many things to perspective buyers too I’ve seen guys strung along for a long time that a car was going to be built only to find out it’s not getting built . That’s not right either . But my opinion is they owe you something for that change and damn sure owe the 22 Durango buyers something. Idk what but it should be something limited edition to add future value.
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Old 02-04-2023, 11:45 AM
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Add to all this, the fact that they have not updated the Dodge.com "build&price" section, and it really shows they just don't care. 90% of the problems we are having are directly related to the fact that buyers have no way to see what is actually available for options/colors/specs, because it still shows the 2022 information. And it's now four months into the 2023 model year and the assembly line has been pumping them out since December. Tthere is still no way to see what the standard mag wheel is that a car comes with...or the optional ones available, or what components come in a certain package.

I described the 807 to 797 bait and switch for the NBREJB car that one guy received: another guy just took delivery of a 2023 Scatpack Challenger. The 2022 build&price shows it as coming with a special interior with embroidered "ScatPack" logos in the seats. What showed up at his dealer had the base model, "rental car" interior with nothing but cheap black canvas material and no logos. He was pissed!

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My personal opinion is they are selling off scraps at this point. They made another run of Durango’s and jail breaks and others to use up left over inventory . It’s all about electrics at this point and they just want to sell off whatever they have. I could be totally wrong but that’s what it seems like to me . Because they certainly don’t give a crap about any of their buyers that’s evident . Although when I had issues w my 08 3500 diesel pick up they didn’t give a crap back then either so IDK maybe it’s just dodge. But sadly I won’t buy another because the vehicle itself is very well built.
Although w the 03-08 pickups they knew damn well. They had an issue w the rear quarter foam and rust rotting and didn’t change it for many years . I got sucked in on that one on my 08 (wanted to wait for the new body for that reason) dealer swore up and down the issue had been fixed in the 08 it was not fixed. Dealer told me repeatedly if this 1/4 rots I’ll fox it free to get me to buy that truck. It was rotted by 40,000 miles. Fought me for months and months on repairing it. Then put a cheesy patch panel in instead of a full 1/4. I just won’t buy another dodge and it’s not because of the cars it’s because they lie to their buyers constantly about everything. Things they don’t need to I could have waited bought an 09 and been happy.
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Dodge finally got back with me on the production numbers question, now that the 2022 model year is finally accounted for as of March 1 2023.

Confirmed as a 1 of 1 Redeyes built with my option combination of Octane Red with Demonic Red interior, Granite Pocket Wheels, and HK stereo.
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And 1 of 10 Octane Red with Demonic red interior Redeyes, out of 68 total Octane Red Redeyes.
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Oh, and in case you were wondering, they made a total of 881 of the 797HP Svelte-Body Redeyes in 2022.

As for the Buxom (Wide) Body versions, they made 1,518, which consisted of 1,056 of the 807HP Jailbreaks and 462 of the 797HP non-Jailbreaks.

They made 571 807HP Super Stocks.

And lastly, the 717HP version Hellcats: they made 1,070 Narrow Bodies and 711 Wide Bodies.

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And ghost stripes!
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Out for a cars&coffee event this morning. Lordy, this thing is stupidly powerful. After hibernating all winter, she's back on the road. You really have to acclimate yourself all over again to the on/off gas pedal and its associated effects on repealing the laws of physics.

It does put a smile on your face, though...and then tries to stretch it all the way around the back of your head. :-)
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