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i saw this car at maplegrove its unbelievable ,met the owner frank very nice guy and knows his stuff ,only buys the best ![]() [/ QUOTE ]Then why did he not start with a Real COPO and do it up to the extent he has done to this car? It appears to be an awesome restoration of a First Generation Camaro I will give him that. It also is a nice representation of a COPO Clone. I hope he breaks the Bank on Resale.
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I wouldn't consider any COPO clone a true clone if it didn't have an original BE rear. That's a huge part of the COPO package so if you're truly building a clone, do it right! Same with the Yenko clones. I would like to see a correct 427, BE rear, sway bar and all the other necessary COPO pieces. A big block with a 12 bolt rear does not make a car a clone in my view.
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I wouldn't consider any COPO clone a true clone if it didn't have an original BE rear. That's a huge part of the COPO package so if you're truly building a clone, do it right! Same with the Yenko clones. I would like to see a correct 427, BE rear, sway bar and all the other necessary COPO pieces. A big block with a 12 bolt rear does not make a car a clone in my view. [/ QUOTE ] Sure, Then there would be b*tching that the cloners are using up all the correct pieces for people restoring real cars...Why do you need a true BE rear in a clone car? If a guy is building a clone and wants to spend the cake for a real BE out of a COPO, fine, I'm cool with that... but heck, half the REAL cars don't have "true" BE rears in them, as I've personally seen more than one obvious re-stamp. The car is nice, its done very well, and way better than most clones, heck, lets face it, its done way better than alot of real cars... give some credit where credit is due. If you don't like clones, thats fine, but saying its not a "good" clone because it doesnt have a correctly dated BE rear is a little rediculous IMO. What IS a "True Clone" anyhow? ![]()
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Sorry that's your view Joe, but for me a clone or recreation should be as accurate as possible and the BE rear is a huge part of the COPO package. I would also like to see a correct dated LT1 engine in a Yenko Deuce clone. Otherwise the clone car isn't a true tribute to what it's trying to clone. I know a lot of people with real cars would hate to see some real parts used in a clone but the parts are available to anyone who wants to buy them. Like I said, that's my view of what a true clone or recreation is. If I was going to spend $50-100K on a clone it better have all those correct components.
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69 Z28 JL8, #'s match - being restored |
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It will never matter what part you put into a clone, BE-Rear, GM NOS part, Repro. part, because the car will always be a replica, imitation look-alike clone. I have nothing against clones, or using whatever car part your heart desires. I do have a problem with people who think clones are in the same class as a real cars and think the only difference is the price. I also believe that people who pass a clone off as real car should be in jail with other counterfeiters. Clones in my opinion will always be in a class by themselves. My question to all of the people who disagree with me is, why are you spending so much money to recreate the real thing? Correct me if I'm wrong but after finding all the right dated parts, restoration costs, you will have spent more on that clone then what a real car would cost. (and, I did not say a restored one).
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Do you find everyone that disagrees with your opinion a disgrace to the muscle car hobby?
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Personally I am not a big fan of clones. But with the market the way it is with the real documented cars bringing big $$$$ I can understand why some people who are getting into the hobby or just want the look of say a COPO car can save big money, and that's why cloning is so popular. Look at the Shelby Cobra it has to be the most cloned car of all time. I for one don't like the replicas but I can appreciate the workmanship a person puts into them. First and foremost the guy selling calls it a clone and is not trying to misrepresent the car. All the complaining about correct components I for one am glad clones are missing some of the components so that we can tell immediately if some unscrupulous person magically finds paperwork and passes it off as real in the future.
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I wouldn't walk across the street to pi$$ on a Super Chevy event they could care less about REAL cars!!!!
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They are all REAL cars. We all just have different likes.
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Thank you Charlie, I stand corrected, I should not have used the word "REAL CAR". From now on I will use the word "Original Car". or "Authentic Car".
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