Muscle Car & Corvette Nationals 2017

[Stefano]

Originally Posted by Charley Lillard

"The Burgundy Mist 442 was NOT a W-30 and was NOT a 4 speed car, when it left Lansing Michigan."
So that would make it a W30 clone and nothing at all like the story board displayed in front of it ?

Yes, it is a 442 with the W30 option and 4 speed added as well as some other changes, so a clone.

[DW31S]

I agree with Stefano regarding positively documenting W-30 models, but I’ll go a few steps farther and include Ram Rods, W-31s, and W-32s. With the advent of “miraculously found original” (bogus) docs these days, it is paramount to have a qualified marque expert with an unbiased connection to the buyer or seller inspect not only the automobile, but any and all associated supporting documentation/pedigree. The hobby (passion for me) has changed by leaps and bounds, and sadly, not all in a positive direction. The internet has exposed fraudulent cars, sellers, and drivetrain stamps, but it has also educated those less than scrupulous souls who weave the web of deception. Now, with Oldsmobiles commanding top dollar, some new blood has been infused to our faithful group that tended to help each other with the Lansing Hot Rods. Cars that were thought to have faded into the sunset, or never existed at all are appearing out of thin air with high-point restorations and “alleged” newly discovered paperwork.

[bigsixman]

On the burgundy mist 442 convertible, were the black W-30 stripes the default color for that dark of an exterior color? I have not seen this color combination before.

Both are beautiful examples.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by bigsixman

On the burgundy mist 442 convertible, were the black W-30 stripes the default color for that dark of an exterior color? I have not seen this color combination before.

When it came to 442 stripes Old recommendation was that the stripes should match the top and or the interior color whenever possible. To get a different color the salesman had to specify which color the customer wanted.

[earntaz]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

When it came to 442 stripes Old recommendation was that the stripes should match the top and or the interior color whenever possible. To get a different color the salesman had to specify which color the customer wanted.

My 69' W-30 was black with white guts ... gold stripes.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by earntaz

My 69' W-30 was black with white guts ... gold stripes.

1969 was different from 1970 -1972:

[earntaz]

I wonder why Olds changed the options besides saving $$ ...

What does the asterisk indicate?

[442w30]

Originally Posted by bigsixman

On the burgundy mist 442 convertible, were the black W-30 stripes the default color for that dark of an exterior color? I have not seen this color combination before.

Look at the top right of this attached file.

Hence, white stripes were the default for Burgundy Mist, so the person working the order form specified a different color.

[bigsixman]

Originally Posted by 442w30

Look at the top right of this attached file.

Hence, white stripes were the default for Burgundy Mist, so the person working the order form specified a different color.

Thank you for posting that info. I just had never seen that color combination before on a W car Olds.

[442w30]

Originally Posted by bigsixman

Thank you for posting that info. I just had never seen that color combination before on a W car Olds.

Just to add, black was not the default stripe for Burgundy Mist, but it's not unusual in the least because black matches everything, just like white.

I think a gold or red stripe paired with this color would be a bit more of a stand-out IMHO.