1969 442 value & codes

[iluv69s]

Not to hijack the thread..but I guess my question may have been answered on the previous thread...a few years ago I went to my buddies garage and noticed this 'aluminum center section' rear in his garage..I never saw such a thing..I asked him about it and he told me it is a 442 rear...seem to remember he told me it had a 4.30 gears?? He had so many rears and parts, that I may be mixed up on that point. Seemed really odd to me...Did they make that gear in a 442?
I know I could probabaly buy it reasonable...what are they worth?
Back to this thread, a year or two ago, a friend restored (not frame off, but really nice)a 69 442 (numbers matching auto trans)..and could not get 20k for it....

Either way, Good Luck.

[notstock71]

Anyone have input on what to offer on it? It is a pretty solid car with alot of potential.

Is there any good explanation for the VIN versus trim tag showing two different plants? I think this is my biggest holdup.

[tom406]

The non matching issue between the tag and VIN is bothersome. Could be a factory mixup, but since the car has obviously had a life, one could be from a different car. Check the VIN tag first, do you think its ever been messed with? If so, leave it be. If not, make sure the number matches his title.

There should be some evidence as you poke around this car that it was once Sable (Burnished Brown) with gold interior. If you find NO evidence of these colors anywhere, the tag is suspect.

The sum of what everyone who has had '68/'69 442's is saying is that most garden variety 442's of this era aren't bringing much money, and at those prices, nobody is going to want to hear a lot of stories. They can afford to be choosy. The wrong motor, the mismatched tag deal, the rust, etc. are rapidly turning this car into just a hot rod Cutlass project. (If the W27 rear is something real, thats a whole other thing.)

If you're comfortable that the VIN is legit, pretend the trim tag is gone when valuing it. Even if it is a factory screwup, its going to be almost impossible for you to prove with the limited history you have. It sounds something like a $4K car to me. It sounds like a $12K hot rod when its done, not a restoration candidate.

Good luck.

[442w30]

I do know there is a mismatch with the data plate and the VIN tag. I do not recall the plant being different but I think the body codes will be different. Suffice it to say that this red flag may not be as such.

[notstock71]

I'm still talking with the owner and he says the title says it is a Hurst. I'm not sure what to make of this since the trim tag info contradicts a Hurst. The car has a regular hood and regular 442 emblems. I have a mutual friend who knows history of this car quite a ways back and he said the current owner has the original 455 (albeit blown up) in his garage. Any opinions? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

[notstock71]

If I can get back over there does anyone have tips for what else to look at to try and figure out exactly what this car is or isn't? On the engine that is supposed to be the &quot;original&quot; 455 what numbers or codes should I look for and where are they? I appreciate any more help with this that can be provided.

[442w30]

Well, if it's a real '69 H/O, the color code probably would be white, I think? And since it is Sable (per the data plate), that would rule out the H/O and the 455.

http://www.hurstolds.com/

However, the title doesn't determine what kind of car it is.