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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My limited knowledge of this stuff, but I picked up a thing or to from Eddie M., is that the 68 Camaros that were destined to be converted into <span style="font-style: italic">Yenko</span> Camaros, came from the factory as "COPOs" which included unique (read COPO) increased diameter of the sway bar and othere unique items that I am forgetting about. I believe '69 Novas destined to be <span style="font-style: italic">Yenko</span> Novas were never COPOs, but rather L78 SSs. </div></div>
Spot on. The '68 Camaros were COPO 9737; 140 speedo's, big front bar, etc... The '69 Novas were L78's - all were 4 speeds.
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Sam and Marlin - that's what I thought, thanks for the confirmation.
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So, absent any original documentation, what he has is an L78 Nova with Yenko striping [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Hadnt the Suydam Nova been speculted to possibly be a 427 from the COPO line? I thought I remembered seeing that on his bulletin board back in the day.
I since have seen that its been posted on his site that it left as a 396/375 car.
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I believe Kevin's car is one of the confirmed 427 transplants. There's paperwork on it from Stauffer advertising it with the 427. There's no indication anywhere that I've seen to suggest that any 69s were COPOed.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hadnt the Suydam Nova been speculted to possibly be a 427 from the COPO line? I thought I remembered seeing that on his bulletin board back in the day.
I since have seen that its been posted on his site that it left as a 396/375 car. </div></div> I believe you may have that mixed up with the garnet red blk/vyl top car. What ever happened in court with that car? Joe
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hadnt the Suydam Nova been speculted to possibly be a 427 from the COPO line? I thought I remembered seeing that on his bulletin board back in the day.
I since have seen that its been posted on his site that it left as a 396/375 car. </div></div> Kevin's car is a confirmed 427 transplant car - the only one that we know of that has Yenko paper to back it up. Also, Kevin's car is confirmed to be a non-COPO car. That rumour was started by the restoration company in Oklahoma who restored the car for Otis Chandler. They arrived at the COPO conclusion because they found the broadcast sheet in the seats, and when the sheet for that car was printed at the Fisher plant the paper was misaligned by one row. Therefore, each row of print was on the row below - and, since '69 Novas have the engine code on the broadcast sheet the L78 designator was misaligned into the COPO box. So, at first glance you can see how the shop could misconstrue the car as a COPO L78, but it would take about 10 seconds for a reasonable person to figure out that the entire first row of information is also on the wrong row - and figure out that it was a printer issue. Bad call on whom ever decided to go public with the tunnel vision on that one! Kudo's to Kevin for taking the extra 10 seconds to figure out the 'mystery', and stop perpetuating the story - regardless as to how it affected the value of the car.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, absent any original documentation, what he has is an L78 Nova with Yenko striping [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] </div></div>
Depending on what, and if he has documentation, can he prove it was even an L78? |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hadnt the Suydam Nova been speculted to possibly be a 427 from the COPO line? I thought I remembered seeing that on his bulletin board back in the day.
I since have seen that its been posted on his site that it left as a 396/375 car. </div></div> Kevin's car is a confirmed 427 transplant car - the only one that we know of that has Yenko paper to back it up. Also, Kevin's car is confirmed to be a non-COPO car. That rumour was started by the restoration company in Oklahoma who restored the car for Otis Chandler. They arrived at the COPO conclusion because they found the broadcast sheet in the seats, and when the sheet for that car was printed at the Fisher plant the paper was misaligned by one row. Therefore, each row of print was on the row below - and, since '69 Novas have the engine code on the broadcast sheet the L78 designator was misaligned into the COPO box. So, at first glance you can see how the shop could misconstrue the car as a COPO L78, but it would take about 10 seconds for a reasonable person to figure out that the entire first row of information is also on the wrong row - and figure out that it was a printer issue. Bad call on whom ever decided to go public with the tunnel vision on that one! Kudo's to Kevin for taking the extra 10 seconds to figure out the 'mystery', and stop perpetuating the story - regardless as to how it affected the value of the car. </div></div> Wow Marlin - good info. Thanks for educating us (me)!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Wow Marlin - good info. Thanks for educating us (me)! </div></div> The boy DOES have some Yenko insight. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img]
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