E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[GenOne]

For some Yuengling I'll head down [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

[bergy]

Thanks for the offer guys - the beer will be on me! I'd love to have a bunch of you guys down here. To Tom's concern - he is correct, I was a real skeptic on this car. Heck - I was the first one to tell everyone that it had the wrong firewall and even posted the cowl vin before I ever bought the car. I even suggested that others might want to run the cowl vin at dmv to track down the story on that car. Well, I inspected the car again and got a statement about the cowl vin car being wrecked (and never re-registered after 1982). Then my skeptisism began to fade. Then I found out that the car was actually inspected about 10 years ago by folks who knew what they were looking for - and they believed the story that the owner gave them at the time about the car having come out of a junkyard. I then found out from the previous owner that the junkyard story was partially true, but the repairs of the car actually occurred in about 1985 using some junkyard parts (&quot;about 7 years prior to 1992&quot; according to the statement). The female owner that was spoken to in about 2000 wasn't the one who did the repaint in about 1995 and, therefore, was just repeating (I believe incorrectly) the story that was passed on to her from the 1992 owner. What remains is for me to find the 1985-1992 owner of #616414. I have a second hand statement, but need first hand. The DMV is working on it - you may not hear much for a while.

[CanCOPO]

As a newbie I have found this thread most interesting. If I had presented this car/story in this forum the outcome would be quite different. I have seen this happen countless times here. Building the pedigree of a car based on the reputation of the person submitting the case may give rise to ethical issues. Nothing is a substitute for documentation. Even history and physical eveidence are a distant second. I guess it comes down to &quot;let the buyer beware&quot; and that's sad.

[JRSully]

I guess it is enjoyable to some to go birdoggin and dig up all the past info, past owners and piece it together etc. But when you spend all the $$ to restore it, and given the fact that complete,no BS Yenko's are for sale all the time, round the clock, is it worth it.? The stigma always stays with the car.

[bergy]

Amen Tim - history is evrything! The ability to contact old owners and see old pictures. The full story with names and contact info. Only when this is in place - would I consider spending a lot of resources (and beer) tearing a car apart.

[bergy]

Jim - Since I don't consider this an investment - the real, true, story behind the car is everything to me! It's what motivates me (evidently not everyone though). When and if this car ever gets restored is secondary.

[black69]

I think this car will turn out to be worth it at the end of the day. It could be restored as a yenko (if most of the body build date codes make sense), and would not be a clone.

That would be pretty cool based on the purchase price versus a no question asked yenko. I would call it something in between the real deal and a clone. And over time, who knows what will present itself for purchase (the orignal engine, the tags, etc).

It is funny if this car, turns out to have more original sheetmetal in it, versus a car that had a rebody done around an original firewall. What can be really valueable to this cars value, is who will be present when the body is stripped to authenticate it. Jerry M should be there, Steve from the vintage judging should be there, Kurt from camaros.org should be there in my mind. The beer would have to be really good for that to happen.

Then the body could wear yenko stripes with pride.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm not sure anyone has to be there in person, good detailed pics would likely suffice - I just wanted a reason to take a day off work and drink some beer in front of an old Camaro! Plus, I've never met Bergy, wouldn't mind shootin the bull with him and his cars....

[AutoInsane]

Hey Bergy - Thanks for sharing all of this with us fellow car nuts!!! It's pretty damn cool of you to keep us up on what is going on with this car and putting up with the nay-sayers.

If anyone has seen the pics or read the numerous threads of what Bergy has in sitting his garage they would know the value of this car being a Yenko is definitely not his motivation for what he is doing.

He is a guy who loves these damn old cars and can't keep himself from buyen em, figuring out the story behind em and makin em look damn good once again!!!

Awsome story! Can't wait to see how it ends!!!

[92646]

I think Bergy should consider a new business opportunity. I would pay him to put in this much research in my car's history.