Corona Virus Member Discussion

[Lee Stewart]

In hard-hit areas, testing restricted to health care workers, hospital patients

Health officials in New York, California and other hard-hit parts of the country are restricting coronavirus testing to health care workers and people who are hospitalized, saying the battle to contain the virus is lost and the country is moving into a new phase of the pandemic response.

As cases spike sharply in those places, they are hunkering down for an onslaught, and directing scarce resources where they are needed most to save people’s lives. Instead of encouraging broad testing of the public, they’re focused on conserving masks, ventilators, intensive care beds — and on getting still-limited tests to health care workers and the most vulnerable. The shift is further evidence that rising levels of infection and illness have begun to overwhelm the health care system.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in...cid=spartandhp

[32KZ]

X2 stealthbird #127

I'm a firefighter, my wife's a nurse. Sort of on the front lines of this. Monitoring and just following suggested practice.

That being said, taking measures to boost the imune system,,ramping up the cardio a bit. Doing what we do around the homestead.

Some good info coming down the pike out of this thread, a car site of all things! Both sides. If some anxiety gets vented, not the worse of things.

[70 copo]

More:

French Study shows promise.

Researchers are turning to existing medication for potential use in a new coronavirus treatment.

A study published by French biomedical lab IHU-Méditerranée Infection on Wednesday discovered a potential COVID-19 treatment contender: a combination of hydroxychloroquine, which has been used to treat malaria, and azithromycin.

The two drugs combined would prevent the virus from entering other human cells and therefore stop the virus from spreading.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...irus-treatment

[Lee Stewart]

The issue with hydroxychloroquine is the dosage. Give a patient 1 gram - he's fine. Give him 2 grams - he dies.

[parkbrau]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

The issue with hydroxychloroquine is the dosage. Give a patient 1 gram - he's fine. Give him 2 grams - he dies.

As is the case with any drug. Two grams of almost any drug will kill you.

[70 copo]

Lee,

What are your reservations with the usage of this drug in an approved off label context?

Is there something new about the dosage that gives you reason to be concerned?

Lots of medical experience with it and nearly all of it in a third world medical environment or military treatment context.

Explain Please.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by 70 copo

Lee,

What are your reservations with the usage of this drug in an approved off label context?

Is there something new about the dosage that gives you reason to be concerned?

Lots of medical experience with it and nearly all of it in a third world medical environment or military treatment context.

Explain Please.

I can tell you from experience - my own - being in the ICU two times that you are dealing with people - not machines. They come in, wake you up if you are sleeping, tell you that have to take your medication and watch you take it. The last time I was in the ICU for the flu due to a shift change I wound up taking my Theraflu medication 2X - one more than was necessary. No big deal.

But if a mistake is made with hydroxychloroquine - you get double dosed - you die. Simple as that.

And please don't tell me that hospital staff/doctors don't make mistakes. We can head that one off at the pass right now!

[Lee Stewart]

Trump steps up effort to tout malaria drug as coronavirus 'game changer' despite doubts from FDA

President Trump doubled down on his campaign to cast a malaria drug as a coronavirus cure, saying the treatment could be a game changer despite skepticism from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other government officials.

When asked on Friday if hydroxychloroquine could be used to prevent COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government's top infectious disease expert, replied "no."

"The information that you're referring to specifically is anecdotal," Fauci added. "It was not done in a controlled clinical trial, so you really can't make any definitive statement about it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

[Lee Stewart]

If you have never seen one, this is a ventilator. If the manufacturers name rings a bell, they also manufacturer rebreathers - the underwater air supply that leaves no bubbles - used by all Special Forces military

[70 copo]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

I can tell you from experience - my own - being in the ICU two times that you are dealing with people - not machines. They come in, wake you up if you are sleeping, tell you that have to take your medication and watch you take it. The last time I was in the ICU for the flu due to a shift change I wound up taking my Theraflu medication 2X - one more than was necessary. No big deal.

But if a mistake is made with hydroxychloroquine - you get double dosed - you die. Simple as that.

And please don't tell me that hospital staff/doctors don't make mistakes. We can head that one off at the pass right now!

Ok I understand what you are saying. By the looks of it the amount of medicine needed will be quite small in conjunction with a ZPack.

How it will be administered remains to be seen.

Its effectiveness also needs to be proven.

As an aside this medicine was evaluated on primate in 2004 with respect to COVID/SARS and was found to be effective, however human trials were not needed as SARS resolved through containment.

Here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/