Fathers Lost Yenko Chevelle #358034 Butternut

[69hurstSC]

From Chris's previous posts it appears there was attempts by his mother to have the car returned to Michigan. I'm not a military guy, nor do I know how possessions on a military base work, but what Tom said about possessions going to next of kin makes for a compelling argument that this car belongs to Chris and his family.

Again, I'm no military expert but the photo Chris posted of the residential housing to me looks like it's on a base. If this car was infact taken form the base than wouldn't military law eclipse law-law?

Just asking questions here as I have no skin in the game.

[Cworkman2]

Sorry for the delay, I am currently at work and access to the internet is sporadic at best.
I would like to address your earlier response about casting a cloud over this car. I wholeheartedly believe the current owner bought the car with absolute faith and assurances that it was genuinely titled and sold. I am not debating it I'm sure his path of car purchase went from Leroy Funk, to a gentlemen in Kentucky, then to Pa, and so on. I have been able to track the car since 1984 pretty accurately from help from people on this site and others who have contacted me privately. There is the time previous to Mr.Funks ownership that I wish explore and clarify.
I'm sorry if you or the current owner thinks I'm being subversive, but if you review my previous post concerning this car you will find that I have not initiated any legal proceedings nor have I painted anyone in a negative light. Matter of fact I have admonished everyone who has posted and aided the search for the truth regarding this car. Your comment about " it apparently wasn't worth being reported stolen when it was worth maybe 2K max but now is more like 200k" is posturing and negative in regards to my character and was unwarranted.
Another thing I would like to point out is that if information was present that poster "paceme" put out there then I have to ponder why it wasn't brought up earlier in this search to alleviate any discrepancies. I don't see the need to be baited into giving up information when I have to wait til some armchair drama comes out before we get down to brass tacks.
Lastly, I have posted my information on here so people can contact me directly. I have said in the past that I have not tried to "lower anyones net worth" by saying or even implying the car was acquired by illegal means currently.
But seriously can you blame me for not wanting to give out personal information concerning my fathers death before I can do my own personal research?
To answer your question Charley, the car was free and clear from the bank in Oxford, Mi. I was in contact with them this past week regarding any liens or trusts.
Please inform the current owner that I am not posturing myself in anyway regarding this car, I have never mentioned involving law enforcement, nor have I claimed myself rightful owner of this car. Once again, I will reference my contact information if he/she wishes to contact me privately.
Christopher Workman
5703 w.school road
Mt.Pleasant, Mi 48858
989-600-6881
I didnt accept your/their help because of the thought that your an enemy, I passed because this is my journey and I will find out one way or another what happened. I believe your offer for help was genuine and honorable, but understand it also was prefaced in a very postured way...it put me on guard and I think I have a right to feeling that way...and so does the current owner.
I truly wish this was just another run of the mill 69 chevelle that was abandoned in a field. It would make this alot easier to deal with cause the likelyhood of it being lost forever would of been high...but it's not...so finding it is easier...but now people are drawing conclusions without knowing the story from front to end...just the parts that make their part right. If the current owner was able to buy the car now then what position does that put me in to fight them in a legal battle. If you want to talk to me, really find out the person I am, then contact me or private message me. I am hoping that some of the people I've talked to in the past will acknowledge that I am not some scrub looking to make a buck on this.
Regards,
Chris Workman

[Charley Lillard]

You came here asking for help. Me and the owner offered to help. You passed because it is your journey. My statements are guarded because we are still not clear what your motives are. You wish it was a run of the mill Chevelle that was lost forever ? That wouldn't be any closure. You would just be wondering forever. I can assure you the owner is not concerned with losing the car. He was willing to help research the early years in order to find out and put this to bed one way or the other. There are probably a few here that will vouch for my word. At this point I think the owner will probably spend his own money to find out what happened but it looks like it will be done without your involvement. He is a private person and prefers to keep it that way.
P.S. The person in Ky is not a gentleman.
You also state you have not initiated any legal proceedings yet in earlier posts you stated you tried to apply for duplicate title and you once tried to report it stolen. Those look legal to me.
No hard feelings.

[69hurstSC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You also state you have not initiated any legal proceedings yet in earlier posts you stated you tried to apply for duplicate title and you once tried to report it stolen. Those look legal to me.
No hard feelings. </div></div>

A 9 year old kid picking up the phone and calling or pretending to call law enforcement is reporting it stolen? Come on Charley, you're better than that.

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You also state you have not initiated any legal proceedings yet in earlier posts you stated you tried to apply for duplicate title and you once tried to report it stolen. Those look legal to me.
No hard feelings. </div></div>

A 9 year old kid picking up the phone and calling or pretending to call law enforcement is reporting it stolen? Come on Charley, you're better than that. </div></div>

He said he started looking for the car when he was 9. He did not say he reported it stolen when he was 9.

[69hurstSC]

Is this the first time that the current owner will be attempting to track the history of this Yenko Chevelle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At this point I think the owner will probably spend his own money to find out what happened but it looks like it will be done without your involvement. He is a private person and prefers to keep it that way.

No hard feelings. </div></div>

[bkhpah]

It would seem that the current owner, and all of the past owner history is very clear, at least back for 25+ years not to mention original owner input. Also from what I read here, it would seem the current owner with Charlies help, are more than willing to also get to the bottom if this mystery. If I had that offer I would put my cards on the table and finish this once and for all. It would seem you have the most to gain here. I see no real reason for the current owner to even try and help you out here, yet the offer was made. The current owner, to the best of my knowledge owns, the car with proper documentation and a clear and free title in hand...BKH

[69hurstSC]

Asking for information from Chris and not divulging information from the current owner is more than enough reason for him not to take the offer. Chris has provided free photo's and history which will only add value to this Yenko Chevelle. For people to be chastising him for not &quot;taking the deal&quot; is asinine.If the current owner would provide even half as much information as opposed to what Chris has disclosed in relation to his father's ownership history than it would be a fair offer.

Instead all assertions seem to indicate that the current owner is circling the wagons. If the current owner is so confident in their ownership records than why the statement about the ownership history being attempted &quot;without your involvement&quot;? And I find it mindbogglingly strange that &quot;private&quot; owner of a 69 Yenko Chevelle is only now looking fully into the ownership history of such a prominent car. It's rather easy to assimilate that the reason this Chevelle has flown under the radar is because it has a dark history.

I've never met Chris, but as a younger man (like myself) in the collector car hobby, it can be a daunting task trying to communicate and converse with people who own elite american muscle cars. I've found that these people often don't have time for us younger collectors and enthusiasts. Chris should be commended for how he's handled this to date. He's brand new here and in every post he seems to be apologizing. No wonder there's so few of us 40 and under guys in the hobby. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> It would seem that the current owner, and all of the past owner history is very clear, at least back for 25+ years not to mention original owner input. Also from what I read here, it would seem the current owner with Charlies help, are more than willing to also get to the bottom if this mystery. If I had that offer I would put my cards on the table and finish this once and for all. It would seem you have the most to gain here. I see no real reason for the current owner to even try and help you out here, yet the offer was made. The current owner, to the best of my knowledge owns, the car with proper documentation and a clear and free title in hand...BKH </div></div>

[bkhpah]

Flying under the radar? Really, This car has been FEATURED in at least three musclecar magazines over the years, and has been at many public events. There is a folder of information about the car in the current owners hands. This doesn't sound to me like &quot;dark history&quot;. If the current owner is willing to get to the bottom of this, and has offered to, why is that asinine? I really doubt that claiming a Yenko Chevelle was in some way taken from someone would add any value...BKH

[Charley Lillard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this the first time that the current owner will be attempting to track the history of this Yenko Chevelle?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At this point I think the owner will probably spend his own money to find out what happened but it looks like it will be done without your involvement. He is a private person and prefers to keep it that way.

No hard feelings. </div></div> </div></div>
The current owner has done no owner searches because he already had it back quite a ways.