Motion Nova ???????

[iluv69s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just for what it's worth regarding the notarized statements... the way that I do it is to take copious notes when talking to the individual. Then send them a letter with self addressed return envelope &amp; $$ for notary fee. On the correspondence I say &quot;this correspondence is to memorialize our conversation of (date). Please feel free to alter/change/add anything that you feel will make the document more accurate. Please do not include anything that you don't clearly recall about the car. When you have completed the changes(initial and date each one)and are prepared to attest to its accuracy - please sign the document in the presence of a notary and return it to me in the enclosed envelope&quot;.

I feel that it's kind of an unreasonable expectation to finish a conversation with a former owner (a conversation that could have been hours long), and then ask the individual to write everything discussed down. So, I do the work for them and then ask the former owner to review it, correct it, and sign it. The document always makes it clear that it was typed up by ME to memorialize our conversation. All hand written notes and attesting signature (of course) are from the former owner.

If the document(s) make it clear up front how they came into being - it doesn't raise more questions then it answers. Hopefully this helps.

Also, for what it's worth to everyone, it's a good idea to have statements like this in the car's file from every old owner. Some of these former owners are getting up there in years (like me). It's good to have their statements live on - for the car's sake.

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That is similar to what I have done in the past. You send them a typed up synopsis of the interview and ask them to review it, and/or revise it if necessary and then get it notarized and mailed back.

I was extremely lucky with the 73 SD recently, when the original owner, on his own, hand typed a 16-page, single spaced novella of his entire experience with car and then had it notarized and fedexed to me. That was a one-in-a-million situation because he was sooooo overjoyed to know the car was still around and wanted to remain a part of its history. </div></div>

All great advice..I love those original owner reuniting stories !! ...Only thing I can add is that even better yet is what I did with my 67 Z racecar when I took the original owner out for dinner. With his permission, I taped our whole conversation !..then I went and typed a short synopsis of the highlights and met with him again at a notary the next day before flying back home.

..I was lucky to have a few letters typed up by the owners themselves and notarized for me..although be careful because many years have past and even original owners memories have faded at times..I have a spoiler that was painted for the 70 Old reliable Camaro..the old owner typed a letter explaining its history and how he obtained it. Although the letter and spoiler are authentic, some of the details of the family ties are incorrect.

[69LM1]

I video'd the original owner of the Tin Soldier COPO (with his permission) last year at the Nat's. He also signed the weight box in the trunk and the fan shroud. You can never have too much documentation.

Rich

[robber6910]

Who did Motion Performance use to paint the cars back in the day? With all the auto body/paint shops out on the island, why send it all the way down to South Orange NJ to redo it cause the kid didn't like the color scheme?

[leach]

All I know from talking to Dan from the paint shop is that they did over 10 cars for Motion Performance to paint the Motion stripes on them and this was the first car they did for them in their shop which got their foot in the door since they used numerous shops for their paint jobs and Joel probably shopped around to get best prices. Battaglia Auto Body was well known for their paint jobs on racing cars at Englishtown, N.J. back then. They advertized in Raceway Park News back then. They probably got chosen to work on this car due to Fredy living in Elizabeth, N.J. which was close to South Orange, N.J. He did Carman Rotonda cars and Brooklyn Heavy cars and for Jungle Jim Liberman.

[leach]

Here is ad from Raceway Park

[mike_c]

Hi Barry,

You may want to listen to the recording from Tony Battaglia that I made when I talked to him again. He was polar opposite of Danny Magalia. He was very clear when he stated the car was never in his shop and he never painted it. He further stated his shop wasn't even open during the time frame of when this car was (supposedly painted per Dan's 14 year research the car was done in late 1968). He further stated he wasn't in the country he was off to war and his shop didn't open until mid 1969. He also made it very clear he didn't do any B/M cars until 1970'S...

Seems like that information which should be able to be verified by business license records and military records sure may contradict one elderly employees memory..

Tony also made it clear he was still in contact with Joel so without his confirmation of the situation you having a former employee's version of it may not hold much weight...

All in all as we talked about, you will need some hard facts to prove this car is what it is claimed to be, especially since the memory pool has been tainted so much with time and the researchers putting twist on peoples memory to &quot;help them&quot; remember the details. As I mentioned to you, once I talked to the people that Dan gave me the information on, there memory was not exactly the same as the way it was presented to me by Dan.

I sent you all the recorded conversations with everyone that I spoke to about the car other than Joel( I Didn't record that), so you can certainly hear there unsolicited testimony. As far as Joel is concerned, as I told you he clearly stated there is no records to lead him to believe that this car has any ties to Baldwin or Motion at all in his files, his letter to Dan clearly also stated it...

Good luck with the continued research and I hope everything works out to be able to tell the truth about the car, but keep in mind its still only a body with no driveline and some of the parts Dan confirmed were added to the car from his treasure hunts over the years such as the hood...

If your going to put things out there for people to look at you may want to put it all out there including the recording and the letters and notes, this would surely help people to draw an un-bias opinion of what really has gone on with the search for the truth about this car.


Mike

[427Vega]

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[Salvatore]

YEA, how about that. No more info?

[leach]

I was talking with Tony Battaglia last week and he said after I told him that I had notarized letters from Dan Maglio that he would call his other relative Steve who did the dye on the interior and get back to me. He called me and said could I give him Joels phone number so he could talk to him before he told more things. So I gave him Joels number since he asked. He called me back and told me that Joel told him not to talk no more about that car with anyone. That is all he said about it that he was not allowed to give info about the car. Also the other two motion employees I was talking to told me the same thing now that they were not to talk about this car anymore.

[Hemicolt]

I wonder what the punishment would be if these men talked about any car that was worked on at Motion Performance or worked on by an outside company?
Did Joel Rosen make these guys sign a non disclosure agreement when they worked for him or performed work for Motion Performance?