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I wasn't able to attend this year's show much to my disappointment, my interest lies with the early muscle cars so I was very excited about the 409 display. Tonight is the first time that I have had a chance to look at the photos from the show. Having studied the photos and remembering back that these cars had to be correct factory built 409 cars I can not help but question the 65 Impala that is shown with the group. A 65 Impala with a 425 hp engine and a/c??? Come on, Chevrolet never offered a/c with a solid lifter 409 motor and only the 340 and 400 horse engines were offered in 65. I see that the car is displayed with some paperwork which I'm not able make out but I have never seen any factory documentation that would support this equipment.
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Tommy- 65 340hp car with 2x4s added. What it is and how it came to be included is addressed in this thread exchange:
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/635477/9 |
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Tom,
Thanks for that link, I had not seen it and I kinda thought that might be the case. The display sign says "1965 Impala SS 409/425 # matching engine and transmission". That sign is very mis leading, it may be a # matching 409/340 but it's not a 425. Still looks like a very nice car.
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Indeed, the '65 in the MCACN 409 Invitational display is a<span style="font-style: italic"> very real 409 340 horsepower </span>car. The Albaugh Collection stepped up and agreed to show this car with us after numerous requests were made on several websites. It is a real beauty and it is a <span style="font-style: italic">real 409 car</span> that we were honored to have in the show to represent the 1965 model year. They don't claim that it left the assembly line as a factory built dual quad 425 horse car, and Andy was very clear in disclosing that to me.
Surprisingly, even with several known 409 experts on the hunt, nobody else replied to join us with a real 1965 409 car. We thank Andy and Dennis for stepping up in response to my personal invitation. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img] Bashton |
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Bob, were they claiming that the documents on that display board were originals because they appear to be apart of the $1,000+ reproduction documentation package the seller in Canada used to offer. (same dealer stamp on three of the items) The window sticker stood out in particular with some things not correct.
I can't comment personally on whether the car is a real 340hp car or not without seeing it in person but the docs aren't helping IMHO. The car look does look great regardless! Anyway could you ask them take a picture of the cowl tag and engine pad for me? I had entered this car into my list over 10 years ago but didn't note if it was a 409 for sure because I didn't have many pictures to go by including not seeing the cowl tag and engine pad numbers.
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A Bob G. sighting...nice
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Bob G. sighting...nice </div></div>
Yes, and a great sight he was...always smiling.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif[/img]
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A Bob G. sighting...nice </div></div>
Yes, and a great sight he was...always smiling.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif[/img] </div></div> Indeed...after years of badgering and extensive peer pressure, it was an honor to have Gags join us and show his '64 409 with us. Seriously; [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img] Bashton |
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I've known Bob for many years and I leaned on him pretty hard. I was able to help him confirm it was/is a real one. I love happy endings.
Verne [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] |
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