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Old 12-12-2023, 04:31 PM
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Was looking at some old conversations.
Dan Palchanes 2009

All the info and pictures I have,plus many conversations with Heavy and actually meeting him 2 years ago told me he had Grumpy's 68 RS/SS 396 to 427 4 speed Camaro.I know ownership History on the car too.Thats why I was real surprise what you first said,really confused me and what you were trying to say. Grumpy told me his car was not White originally from the factory.He told the original factory color and mentioned it was a original L89 396/375 RS/SS. I have the name of the guy whos doing the recreation of the original 68 Grumpy RS/SS Car. Dan

Also Dan Palchanes says that the guy that bought it from Heavy was Frank C
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Old 12-12-2023, 05:22 PM
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Thanks Carleen!!

Per Carmen Rotonda and Joe Algieri there was a guy in between, sounds like this Frank C. Do you have a full last name.
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Old 12-12-2023, 05:52 PM
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I did, and Carmen said it was not the guy. I'll ask Carmen again at some point but I peppered him up pretty good with questions so I don't want him to think I'm a pest (but I kind of am lol).

Of the guys I think it would be interesting to track down from history, Frank would be one, and Bill Hayes (Auto Weld) would be another. Can't find any info on either of them.

I get no hits on Frank Carnisacola anywhere. I'm open minded that this might not be an accurate spelling of the last name. I only say that because I have a degree in linguistics and it suprises me to have zero hits on just the last name.
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I did, and Carmen said it was not the guy. I'll ask Carmen again at some point but I peppered him up pretty good with questions so I don't want him to think I'm a pest (but I kind of am lol).

Of the guys I think it would be interesting to track down from history, Frank would be one, and Bill Hayes (Auto Weld) would be another. Can't find any info on either of them.

I get no hits on Frank Carnisacola anywhere. I'm open minded that this might not be an accurate spelling of the last name. I only say that because I have a degree in linguistics and it suprises to have zero hits on just the last name.
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Great thread John,....very interesting.
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Did some digging on Bill Hayes, so I'm told he used to have a shop in Patterson NJ. He did some work on IV for Joe Algieri. Sounds like he would be in his 80s. Was also told a guy named Bill Cerelli had a shop near Bill Hayes and maybe would know him or if he's still around. I'll poke around.

(edit) Bill Carelli has a FB page for his engine shop I'll try reaching him tomorrow.

Been a bunch of phone calls last two days.

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Bill Cerrili is a great guy!
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Great, I'd just like to ask him if Bill Hayes is still with us, I'd like to talk to Bill H and ask him what work he did on IV.
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Talked to Bill Ceralli, he said Bill Hayes passed long time ago.
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Talked to Bill Ceralli, he said Bill Hayes passed long time ago.
With every year that passes, more and more people connected to Grumpy will be discovered as passed away, or will pass away soon. You're doing a great job to discover this story and all it's players.
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