Barrett Jackson Las Vegas

[PeteLeathersac]

A Vin jumped car being illegal is one BIG difference!.


~ Pete

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Put what this car was represented as aside please. What I am talking about here is JUST the car itself. I saw a few posts earlier that someone said the car should be DESTROYED (Les Quam i believe it was). If the vins were never "stolen" and 2 cars were purchased legally and the vin and hidden numbers were switched to SAVE a very rare set of numbers, then I don't see what the difference is between saving a car with 95% of the metal needing to be replaced and one that is completely solid and had a rare set of numbers put on it from a very rusty body to save a piece of GM history.

[RamAirDave]

IMO, one should start with a car and restore/replace what's needed.

Starting with nothing more than a set of tags just doesn't sit right with me. What exactly is being restored in a case like that?

[Mark_C]

Its a federal crime to do what you just stated. That's the difference. Assume for the moment that the VIN cowl and cowl vin numbers came from a body that truly was destroyed, how do you know where the new donor body came from and what its legal status was. Anyone had a 69 Camaro stolen that this body might have come from? I don't think that whoever swapped the tags and hidden VINs had the appropriate authorities come down and examine him doing it and got the appropriate blessings (if there even is a way to do this).

Forget that the rebodied car is not worth close to 125K that was paid for it. It was marketed as one of the most original 69 Z28s ever.

[TMagda]

Disregarding the legality of the restorers actions and the way it was marketed, is it possible the buyer did not care about matching numbers and just liked the car? He appears to have the resources to be able to overpay due to personal preference.

[Mark_C]

Any day he wants a 69 pacecar for 125K he can have mine, I'll even deliver it.

Seriously who, no matter how much money they have, would over pay by at least two and a half times what the car would have been worth with a "restoration drive train" and an original body, let alone a rebody and nothing original on it (if we are to beleive the story).

Would Bill gates pay 10 bucks for a hamburger when the retail price is 1.39 just because he's Bill Gates. I doubt it.

[TMagda]

I missed the part where he paid $125k. That is a lot.

[Mr70]

What the Hell is a "restoration drive train" anyways?

[fastessfreddy]

What ever happened to the gentleman that checked this car out? Jerry macniesh? It seems that he was fooled and is in the center of this.

Now the question is this:

1.) How many cars did he certify over the years? We need to go over and re evaluate all of them!

[Les Quam]

Law enforcement in the form of the NICB has opened an investigation on the car.

If the seller is whats known as "a seller in good faith" in legal terms then he will have no criminal issues but only civil issues in trying to recover his purchase price from whomever he purchased the car. If the seller is also the restorer and the buyer for the cars current indentity purchased on ebay he has a lot more than monetary issues to concern himself with.

Gary's internet retraction is irrelevant. It appears if the information is true that the car in question is currently displaying identity tags and a part of the cowl with a hidden VIN from another car. Someone had to have welded and affixed the identity tags to the current car. The NICB will determine who that is and turn the results of their investigation over to the US Attorney's office for prosecution.

This is one car that will not surface years later at another auction if its true that its identity was transferred from another car.