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Old 10-08-2008, 07:00 PM
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I agree, "survivor" has become the "kleenex" of the collector car world. Not all tissue is Kleenex

This is the reason why Bloomington Gold is trying to raise awareness of what a Survivor really is. And it is not a car that has been fluffed and/or seen substansial restoration.

Just my random thoughts on the subject, not criticizing this GTO other than IMHO it is certainly not a "survivor"

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Default Re: 1968 GTO Convertible, 51k miles, "nice survivor"

I agree with Don and Colin have said. This is a really nice GTO that I would love to own, but when you see: "This restored car drives as well today as the day it left the dealer" you know it's not a 'survivor' in the spirit of the term...it's been given what some call a "sympathetic restoration"...not fully restored, but no longer a 'survivor'. Very very nice car regardless of whether it's a 'survivor', fully restored or somewhere in between.
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More on the subject:

http://colinsclassicauto.com/news.php?story=30
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Gotta be honest..as the owner of a true survivor...I hate it when the word is bastardized..
nice looking RESTORED car though...
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Default Re: 1968 GTO Convertible, 51k miles, "nice survivor"

I agree mostly whats been said here, the term survivor has been thrown around way too loosely the last 3-5 years..

I was just very limited on what I could I put in the subject line here, and figured that SOMEWHAT described this car, I put it in "quotes" as to not assume this is a true survivor my any means..

If I were a Bloomington Gold Judge, I would have a hard time giving a survivor award to a car that does not have original paint like this one, so hence I agree, this car really is only a "lite" survivior even if that...I will edit the subject line if I can..
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I guess I missed my chance the edit the original subject line, maybe a moderator can do it?
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Default Re: 1968 GTO Convertible, 51k miles, "nice survivor"

Got to be a better word than "Survivor." To vague, a survivor is something that is still living or around, doesn't say anything about what shape its in or if its been restored. If we come up with better terms for these classes then it will be misrepresented less. This car is a classic example, it has survived but been fluffed way too much for some to be called a survivor.

Like Colins awesome BOSS for sale, small touch up paint area and rebuilt motor. To me its an awesome survivor with a little makeup/powdering done.
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Gotta be honest..as the owner of a true survivor...I hate it when the word is bastardized..
nice looking RESTORED car though...

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Ditto- but I think the word with restored is stretching it too. Nice driver- yes.

Its just like 70% of the shows we go to these days, I want to hand out the "Sanding Block Award" or better yet- "3M Best of Best Spit Shiners"

If one would list a car for 55k, wouldn't one think they would polish the swirls glare marks out of the side- or is that poor lighting and photo work?
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Default Re: 1968 GTO Convertible, 51k miles, "nice survivor"

WOW Smokey thats a little harsh dont you think??
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Default Re: 1968 GTO Convertible, 51k miles, "nice survivor"

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Gotta be honest..as the owner of a true survivor...I hate it when the word is bastardized..
nice looking RESTORED car though...

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Ditto- but I think the word with restored is stretching it too. Nice driver- yes.

Its just like 70% of the shows we go to these days, I want to hand out the "Sanding Block Award" or better yet- "3M Best of Best Spit Shiners"

If one would list a car for 55k, wouldn't one think they would polish the swirls glare marks out of the side- or is that poor lighting and photo work?

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It doesn't have any swirls? Its got nice paint...Nicer than ANYTHING you own for SURE..
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