Gene and Judes underwater

[Postsedan]

Wow! Just Terrible! Hope all that Ketch-up didn`t get ruined

Dan.

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Wow! Just Terrible! Hope all that Ketch-up didn`t get ruined

Dan.

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Contrary to popular belief, ketchup does NOT have to be refrigerated after opening. That gives you some idea of the amount of preservatives you're squirting on your burgers!!

Hope all those flooded dry out soon!!

[Tommy]

Mustard is good on everything. Ketchup has no business on a hotdog or a cheeseburger..... It's for fries,tots,and onion rings only. Hope things dry up quick for you guys. We didn't get any rain here in HSV from Ike but did get a little wind (very little wind). Were all just gettin ready for the autumn edition of tornado season....

Tommy

[hvychev]

A real Chicago dog will never have Ketchup on it. We usually "run it true da garden" but no ketchup. Mustard is ok though. Gene & Judes is a "Chicago" institution but it ain't even in Chicago is it? Is that area Chicago?

For all you that are reading, most people that live within 50 miles of Chicago "THINK" they live in Chicago but don't. Those of you guys that live in some suburb in northern Illinois DON'T live in Chicago! I know that Dan Vasic grew up in Logan Square which is in Chicago so he is cool but the rest of ya......BEAT IT!

Here are some pre requsits for saying that you live in Chicago or some place very close.

You live in a bungalow or 2 flat (Graystone or bungalow style 2 flat").

You have a tavern within a block or two of you that is in the middle of a residential neighborhood.

You have a frickin alley!

You are walking distance to some form of public trasportation.

You or your parents are first generation immigrants.

You live a couple of minutes from a "famous" pizza joint!

[Xplantdad]

Whazzup Frankie???

[Tommy]

I've never been to Chicago. been fairly close a time or two but haven't made it all the way in yet. I have seen the hotdog joints on TV and really want to try some someday. Yall really load em up.... We don't have many hotdog stands down here and I don't know why. Most of my life my family has been Oscar meyer folks but a couple years ago Dad invited me over for a cook out and he was trying "nathan" brand dogs.... We never looked back. A grill full of Nathan dogs and Johnsonville Brats is top notch stuff.


Tommy

[hvychev]

What up Bruce!

Tommy, Hot Dog's are a Chicago thing. FYI, Oscar Meyer was a German immigrant that settled in Chicago and the rest is hot dog history. Also, the company that makes Vienna Beef is also a Chicago company.

One thing that you will almost never find outside of the Chicago area is our Itallian Beef Sangwitches. Now those are good! Do any of you guys living outside of Illinois have places that sell Itallian Ice?

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........a couple years ago Dad invited me over for a cook out and he was trying "nathan" brand dogs.... We never looked back. A grill full of Nathan dogs and Johnsonville Brats is top notch stuff.


Tommy

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Read to the bottom for Nathan's originally from Coney Island (Glenn posted a pic in Old Street Scenes)

[edit] History

A "home-cooked" hot dog with mayonnaise, onion, and pickle-relishClaims of invention of the hot dog are difficult to assess, because various stories assert the creation of the sausage, the placing of the sausage (or another kind of sausage) on bread or a bun as finger food, the popularization of the existing dish, or the application of the name "hot dog" to a sausage and bun combination.

The city of Vienna traces the lineage of the hot dog to the Wienerwurst or Viennese sausage, the city of Frankfurt to the Frankfurter Wurst, which it claims was invented in the 1480s and given to the people on the event of imperial coronations, starting with the coronation of Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor as King; the hot dog has also been attributed to Johann Georg Lahner, a 18th/19th century butcher from the Bavarian city of Coburg who is said to have invented the "dachshund" or "little-dog" sausage and brought it from Frankfurt to Vienna.[3]

Around 1870, on Coney Island, a German immigrant named Charles Feltman began selling sausages in rolls.[4][5][6]

Others also have been acknowledged for supposedly having invented the hot dog. The idea of putting a hot dog on a bun has been ascribed to the wife of a German named Antonoine Feuchtwanger, who sold hot dogs on the streets of St. Louis, Missouri in 1880, because his customers kept walking off with the white gloves handed to them for eating the hot sausages without burning their hands[7] Anton Ludwig Feuchtwanger, a Bavarian sausage seller, is said to have started serving sausages in rolls at the World's Fair – either the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago or the 1904 Louisiana Purchase Exposition in St Louis[8] – again allegedly because the white gloves he gave to customers so that they could eat his hot sausages in comfort began to disappear as souvenirs.[9]

The association between hot dogs and baseball may have begun as early as 1893 with Chris von der Ahe, a German immigrant who owned not only the St. Louis Browns, but also an amusement park, beer garden and brewery near Sportsman's Park, where he sold his beer.[10]

One of the most famous names connected to the hot dog is that of Harry Mosley Stevens, an English milkman born in Derby in 1856 who emigrated to the US with his family in search of his fortune. Stevens developed a keen interest in baseball and designed and sold the sport's first score card, which is still in use to this day. An accomplishment that is still highly regarded in the world of baseball.[citation needed]

Stevens was also making his mark by supplying concessions to some of America's biggest ball parks including the Polo Grounds (home of the New York Giants and Yankees). It is at this particular ball park that he began selling 'dachshund sausages' in long buns one cold April day in the early 1900s because his usual ice creams and cold sodas were causing him to lose money. The simple yet tasty snack was a hot success with the baseball fans and it is believed by some that newspaper sports journalist and cartoonist, Tad Dorgan of the New York Times Journal depicted the scene in a cartoon of the hot dachshund sausages in buns being sold, but as he couldn't spell dachshund, he is said to have coined the term 'hot dog'.[citation needed]

Harry M Stevens Inc. which was founded by Stevens in 1889 continued successfully servicing major sports venues with hot dogs and other refreshments, making him widely known as the 'King of Sports Concessions' in the Unites States of America. [11]

In 1916, an employee of Feltman's named Nathan Handwerker was encouraged by celebrity clients Eddie Cantor and Jimmy Durante to go into business in competition with his former employer.[12] Handwerker undercut Feltman's by charging five cents for a hot dog when his former employer was charging ten.[12] At a time when food regulation was in its infancy, and the pedigree of the hot dog particularly suspect, Handwerker made sure that men wearing surgeon's smocks were seen eating at Nathan's Famous to reassure potential customers.[9]