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And people wonder about how GM got in so much trouble ????
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422HP with a few mods to around 500hp is fine by me for my streetcar as im done with the street racing thing long ago and don't need 800hp on the street, Even if it did have 800hp its not going to touch my nasty nascar SB-2 headed smallblock camaro dragcar which does make over 800hp and runs in the low 9 second range.
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If you compare a GT 500 at 500hp (45k plus markup) to a regular Camaro 422hp (35k),the price difference should be about 10k. I think for a lot less than 10k I could get another 78 more horsepower over the Shelby. IMO
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HP means crap. its how you get the HP to the pavement and if this car cant get it down as good as a Roush or Saleen with 100hp less who cares.
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Markups are long gone on GT 500s, well below sticker is the norm. A fully loaded Camaro should come in at around 40K. For a few thousand more the GT 500 is the better bang for the buck right now right now. If you start adding mods to the Camaro to compare it to the Ford you also have to spend the same amount on the Mustang which makes a lot more HP for a lot less money due to being supercharged. All of which is a shame since the Camaro is a stunning car with far superior handling with the independent rear suspension. Makes me want to cry that the Camaro is coming in under 500 HP from the factory for at least the first two model years?
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Chevrolet is trying to keep the price of the car down so that it will survive in today's market place. Most people are going to opt for the lower cost, fuel efficient V6. A 500 HP Camaro from the factory would be awesome, but I do not think it is ever going to happen. They have the Corvette for that reason. The LS9 in the new ZR1 corvettes is the same 6.2 L displacement as the LS3 in the 2010 camaro. I'm sure if you wanted to go forced induction, you could get all of the parts over the counter from GM. All you would really have to do to the LS3 would be a set of good set heads, cam, and full exhaust and you would be over 500 rear wheel hp. That is more than enough hp for the street.
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I guess I'm in the minority here but i like it. The more I see of it the more it grows on me. I've seen the Challenger and to me it looks like a bloated version of the 70 model. It's a bigger car than I thought it would be. 422 Hp isn't anything to sneaze at, especially for a street car. To each his own, I guess.
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I just don't "like" the new Camaro I love it. I saw both the coupe and vert at SEMA last year and pictures don't do the car justice it is one of the best looking cars ever to come out of Detroit or where ever it is going to be built? The vert is incredible in person the rear quarters bulge out like a 911 it is bad to the bone. I had read a while back that Lutz said a 550 HP version would be available and then Carroll Shelby confirmed recently in an interview that he was told Chevy was bringing out a 550 HP Camaro so I am surprised it won't be out for a couple years if ever? Its still a 4000 pound car and it doesn't have 8 inch wide polyglass tires on the rear wheels so I don't know how exciting 422 HP is going to be? I can tell you the 500 HP on my GT 500 was pretty tame in stock configuration before Shelby converted it into a Supersnake.
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