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Old 07-10-2008, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: New Hemmings Cover

I have seen the car at a car show with all it's paperwork. You may tell a few people that come up and ask about it that it is a fake but 99% of the people walk by see the paperwork and assume it is real. On two different threads I think I suggested that you also put a sign up stating the paperwork is fake. I think my suggestion was ignored both times. That leads me to believe your motives are other than educating the public as you would like us to believe.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:39 AM
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I have seen the car at a car show with all it's paperwork. You may tell a few people that come up and ask about it that it is a fake but 99% of the people walk by see the paperwork and assume it is real. On two different threads I think I suggested that you also put a sign up stating the paperwork is fake. I think my suggestion was ignored both times. That leads me to believe your motives are other than educating the public as you would like us to believe.

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Charley Lillard,

I'm sorry if you thought i ignored your previous post.That was not the case.I simply chose not to reply to them in an open public forum.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.........

Thank you........
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:43 AM
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I think the Hemmings Muscle Machines cover will explain it all....

ONE OF NONE....

I will display this at any future car shows.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:39 PM
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Thank you all for your compliments,emails and pm,s.

I have received plenty of emails and pm,s re:my documention.I was asked to have it and even the car itself destoyed!

I totally agree with your concern.Everybody should realize that i'm one of "you" and not "them".I am on your side when it comes to fake doc's, POP's etc...I would like to take this time and reassure you that the docs will be destroyed if and when the car leaves my possesion.I originally did it for pure novelty.To make myself a real looking car with totally pure innocence.Then i displayed the docs on team camaro with pride.OMG! did i get a bunch of PM's Emails...etc....I had no idea.....I then sat on it for a while.Just thinking about what i should do.Then i wanted the people that arent so "in the know" to know that this practice is going on for monetary reasons and not just for fun or novelty like my car.I would like everybody to watch out in thier purchase of a fully documented car...I had learned some very interesting points of view from people.It is truly amazing how some people think both intelligently and not so intelligently.But i have heard even more great opinions...

Ok,this is the part where i can simply lie to you and tell you that i will destroy all doc,s.But i'm not a liar.So i will once again reassure you that the docs will not leave my possesion with the car.I will set these docs aside and not display them anymore.These doc's POP etc..cost me thousands of dollars.So rather than simply destroy them,i will keep them aside.i will surely not destroy the car.

I will only dislay the car for what it is and not what it is pretented to be.Hemmings loved the car!
Now to further prove my honesty we all have Hemmings Muscle Machines which is a major publication proving the car's fake pedigree.That will be the only document that will go along with my car if/when i ever sell it.....

........John........
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:38 PM
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I suppose I "just have to" add my 2 cents too, why not, eh?

I "know" John from Team Camaro, and I've met him and seen the car up close and personal at last years Car Crazy show in San Meteo.

The car is simply fabulous.

John is a great guy, and totally honest, if somewhat niave.

I'm uncomfortable with the paperwork too. I can certainly see the "potential" for a serious problem at some future date.

Regardless, Kudos on the musclecar of the year nomination, as well as the 8 pages and cover in Hemmings!
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: New Hemmings Cover

I think it would be better to display them with a sign pointing out that every document is fake . Maybe type up a nice paragraph warning people about how easy it is to fake this stuff and really look into cars history etc before shelling out hard earned money for a supposed documented car.
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Old 07-13-2008, 06:51 AM
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OK,
If i choose to display the doc's.
I will display that the doc's are re-created.

that seems like a fair way of doing it......

I'm getting somewhat fatigued at defending them for my purpose.

I may just put the car away in storage for a quite a while.......

I think i'm ready to start a new project anyway......
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