THE LAST??? 1967 Z-28

[firstgenaddict]

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With the Gibb novas there is around 50 cars between each VIN# There is 4 different sets of body #s. But the thing I found out is some of the early body #s are on later VINed cars. I thought for a long time that the 4 body #s where related to the 4 colors of the cars. One car showed up that proved that wrong. 20 years of study these cars and still dont know how they were done?? AS the saying goes the more you know the less you know.

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Exactly Kim... a closed mind is an ignorant mind... none of us know everything and to go into these discussions thinking that we do know everything is ludicrous. There is more and more information uncovered every year and like you said... "the more I think I know... the more I realize I am just scratching the surface!

[Charley Lillard]

70copo . What I have derived from all of this is that you seem to have it in for the CRG. You seem to come into this thread baiting William by asking 50 questions and taunting for answers like a attorney at a trial. Supress free speech ? Damage control ? If you don't believe what I am saying about how you are coming across, ask someone you are sure is neutral from outside this forum. I personally don't think you are proving any points because of the argumentative way you are trying to make them. If anything it makes you harder to believe.

[70 copo]

Charlie,

You need to read the above reply to Kurt. True or not? I have a right to stick up for what I think is true.

No rules broken. I am sure you ripped William for his Mild obscene remark he made to me in a previous post that I did not deserve at all.

[Hylton]

I always end up putting my nose into things when I shouldn't but I can't let this one go. Although I agree that CRG could do a better job at publishing it's collected information, the work that these individuals have done have been huge for Camaro enthusiasts around the world. Much of the information we know today is a direct result of the hard work and effort of these guys and I thank them for it!

[70 copo]

I agree 100% The CRG is the best resource on the net. We simply disagree on this one issue.

[Kurt S]

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We simply disagree on this one issue.

[/ QUOTE ]I'm just not sure what that one issue is!

[Verne_Frantz]

I've been enjoying this thread too (from a technical side - not the arguments) because I've been trying to understand and document assembly plant practices in the 58-64 era for 25 years.

One thing my research can offer is the fact that (in that era) Fisher Body sequence numbers do not follow in the same order as the final VINs assigned. It is also not uncommon to find a body build date and body # out of sequence (based on VIN final assembly) with other body build dates.

For example, there may be 50 cars in VIN order that have a body build date of (let's say) 05A or 05B, then a car with a VIN 50 higher will show up with a body build date of 04D, and an expected lower body sequence number.

I'm not taking any sides in any argument. Just merely stating what my dbase of 1000s of 58-64s has proven. And like the CRG, my data is available as correlated information, (though it's not on line) and the individual owner information is kept strictly private. Unlike the CRG (or any Camaro research), I've had to deal with 15 different assembly plants over that time. However I can state that the process of order reception, VIN assignment, broadcast to the lines and Fisher Body build orders appears to be the same at all 15 plants, and it closely coincides with the procedures Kurt has described. There are some notable differences of course, but they don't apply to the 67-8-9 topic of this thread. (sorry if I've strayed)

Verne

[70 copo]

Verne,

The Fisher body # and VIN# do not line up on the 67's either. Thanks for sharing.

Phil