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[SS427]

I must say I was not happy about the way it was implied that I authenticated this car as the earliest known Lakewood car after reading the other thread. Several people asked me about it and I just left it alone. After seeing more information on the car and finally seeing the buildsheets, it was obvious they were faked and I did NOT appreciate the implications. Bob had sent me an e-mail prior to my response to the thread and I was only posting that response to let him know that I returned his e-mail. At this point, NOTHING had been commented on regarding this car.

from the other thread
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SUPERSPORT,
I sent you an e-mail.
Rick Nelson

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So is this the earliest vin known? Car is on its way! More details and photos to come. Thanks for the good info!

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Here is that e-mail that was sent to Bob Peck. No where in my e-mail do I even comment on this car even though Supersports reply might make it sound that way. This is just one of the reasons I am VERY skeptical of peoples requests anymore especially when coming from a broker. They make it sound like someone in the know authenticates the car so they can pass it off as something it is not. Hence my comment below regarding the public use of my name and information. I very seldom charge people for my services and DO NOT appreciate it when it is abused and all for their benefit. In the future, if it is for their gain, maybe I should make it for mine as well especially when my name is being used against my will. It is all about the money.

E-mail;
From: EXTREMECLASSICS
To: [email protected]
Sent: 1/15/2008 9:48:59 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Ls6 Chevelle

Hello,
I am thinking about purchasing this car and wondered if you had any information? It is supposed to have its original MOTOR stamped factory block it left the factory with and a auto trans.
Thank you!
Vin # 136370A118941

From: Rick Nelson ([email protected])
Sent: Fri 1/18/08 1:56 PM
To: [email protected]

I have the registry and do not currently know anything about a Lakewood plant car with VIN 118941. I saw your post on Yenko.net and had no information available that is why I did not respond. I would have to see copies of any documents and/or untouched photos showing the engine, trans and rearend stamping to determine the legitimacy of this car.
Rick Nelson
LS-6 Registry

Response;
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:14:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Ls6 Chevelle
To: [email protected]

Thanks Rick I am waiting for a fax now of 2 build sheets. Can I fax or email photos to you? Thanks for your response!
Best Regards,
Bob Peck

From: Rick Nelson ([email protected])
Sent: Fri 1/18/08 8:25 PM
To: [email protected]

Yes and please do. I would like to see the build sheet. Also any photos that may be available. Keep in mind, without being able to inspect the actual build sheet, I can only speculate on it's authenticity. Lastly, however my response is completely between you and I and I do not want my name used as an authentication tool without my permission.
Rick

Later I responded;

From: Rick Nelson ([email protected])
Sent: Mon 1/21/08 11:07 PM
To: [email protected]

Bob,
Were you going to e-mail me a copy of the buildsheet? (I never received them as promised so I was never able to make any judgement call on this car).
Rick

I am not sure who gave him information leading Bob to think his was the earliest Lakewood car but it was not me. I never even implied to ANY degree this car was even remotely real.
Rick

[sean70ss]

I can say Rick has saved me a bundle from getting scammed and never charged me a dime for checking things out on the LS6 cars I have. Brokers claim alot kind of like BJ auction and come to fin out they are full of well you know the rest.

Sean

[Charley Lillard]

I just read the threads and I didn't get the impression that you authenticated or endorsed the car anywhere.

[SUPERSPORT]

He didnt, and I dont believe I implied he did. Does Rick Nelson think he is the only one with information on cars?! Am I missing something? The car is what it is and described as such.

[PeteLeathersac]

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Does Rick Nelson think he is the only one with information on cars?!

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Personally I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and considering this LS6 as possibly an undocumented but genuine car...but seeing you now including this kind of statement, especially when Rick has tried to help you SUCKS and could make the true enthusiast, helpful guy he is perhaps reconsider what he's been offering anyone for free?.


So thanks a lot SS...merchandise your cars whatever way you want but I wouldn't be surprised if the true result is biting the rest of us here in the butt when we need and seek his help in the future?!.

~ Pete

[SS427]

Bob, I am far from it and there are MANY more people on this web site who know a lot more about these cars then I ever will and I certainly hope that I never come across like I think I do. This is one of the reasons I seldom respond to LS-6 posts anymore. Just because I comment on a car or some parts certainly does not mean I know it all or that I am correct (like 064 vs 772 fans). Many times Chris White straightens me out and on some days I argue with him. I was also not trying to throw a stick at you, only trying to clear the air based on e-mails sent to me.

I only started this registry as I was voluntered for it and since I was already doing it for the purpose of bettering my restorations I accepted. However, my name is used all the time as "he authenticated the car" and before this happened again with this car I wanted to clear the air as people were already stating that off line.

In answer to Charley's comment, it was due to the dozens of e-mails I received from people here and over at Team Chevelle wondering what information I had that I was able to confirm it being the earliest Lakewood car. This based soley on the other thread started here where I commented that I sent him an e-mail and he responded that the car was on it's way. I responded to Bob's requests to me offline in an effort to not start just this very thing and it did anyway. I was in no way saying that Bob was in fact using my name to authenticate the car but that was what several people who sent me e-mails thought I did.

To be honest, I have not even taken a very close look at this Gold car other then to look at some of the underhood errors. I have several cars to restore that pay the bills but help people every day on their cars in an effort to make their restorations better. I don't get paid for that help and do it because I enjoy it. I just didn't want my name pulled into something that I had nothing to do with as this car somehow did. Exactly what I tried to avoid in the beginning. Nuff said, the car is what it is and hopefully goes to a good home.
Rick

[SUPERSPORT]

Thank you

[deuce-less]

i think it would be best for everyone to just take a deep breath.......

lets not lump all brokers/ dealers together as being bad guys.....

many times in the aquisition, sale, trading of cars information might be supplied and relied on by others as true, when it might not be.

i have had personal dealings with rick and found him to be very helpful, knowledgeable and willing to assist site members in any way he can

i have never purchased any cars from supersport, but feel that he should not be judged as being less than forthcomming when all of the facts may not be known.

better communication usually helps avoid misunderstanding.

jmo

[six-corners]

I think some of you people have a better time calling peoples cars questionable more then anything. You sit back and question every little detail, and if someone is not in your "click" then you doubt them.

[P.J.]

We would not be having this discussion if the car had documentation. If its not availiable then its a real nice clone.
PJ